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Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by psbp » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:50 PM UTC

onedev wrote: post #45

josh2600 wrote: post #26

Sigh... Instagram talks a good game, but I find this to be more unimaginative dreck. Look, I get it, you need to clone Vine to stay competitive, but it's not new or a re-imagining of the video paradigm. Most of these social startups promise unique experiences based on new forms of social interaction, but really only deliver more ways to watch cats dance on the internet. Bring on the hardcore technology like better Et…

You don't think their stabilization technology is imaginative?

How does this compare with Youtube Capture's stabilization? I haven't used either.

*If this is any indication youtube's is pretty good, but not as seamless: http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2012/05/video-stabilizati...

Though we haven't seen a video comparison yet.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by mef » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:50 PM UTC

lotso wrote: post #44

tsurantino wrote: post #34

So, expectedly, we will hear a lot of criticism that Instagram is copying Vine. In some ways, it is - but with its own spin and one that I think will emphasize beauty in video, much like it has done with photos and whereas I see Vine personally as one that lets you share moments as they are or some kind of quirky videos. Technologically, the difference is arbitrary (filters vs. no filters) but, as the saying goes: th…

There are more shares from Vine on Twitter than Instagram. I'd say its use has skyrocketed.

Citation?

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by yid » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:51 PM UTC

s3r3nity wrote: post #29

phatbyte wrote: post #21

I wonder how Vine will fight back. Will they now also include pictures ? ;) Anyways, I feel I'm being played by all the media attention that this got. Since when an app update gets all this attention ? Are we getting so superficial that this stuff really gets so many spotlights ? It's not even a new app or anything disruptive, it's just Vine on Instagram with edition mode.

Well the 'Cinema' feature is something brand new that Vine doesn't have -- stabilizing videos like this is mind boggling to me at least and should be interesting to see how it plays out.

FWIW, Youtube has had this feature since May 2012, for videos considerably longer than a handful of seconds:

http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2012/05/video-stabilizati...

EDIT: the demo video on that link above is pretty spectacular.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by dignati » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:51 PM UTC

UVB-76 wrote: post #48

The video introducing video on Instagram is on Vimeo. That speaks volumes about this service.

You didn't think that through, did you? It's longer than 15 seconds.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by film42 » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:52 PM UTC

gokhan wrote: post #12

Funny. That introduction video is on Vimeo.

But player.vimeo.com, how long until someone uploads to youtube?

UPDATE: It looks like it's back (kinda): https://vimeo.com/68765934

UPDATE 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uehy21pHDW0

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by dignati » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:53 PM UTC

moskie wrote: post #8

Not actually seeing v4.0 available in the Google Play store. ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.instagram.... ) EDIT: Now the Play Store page is saying "CURRENT VERSION: Varies with device" I haven't seen that before. It's not letting me install it on my Galaxy Nexus as of yet. Is there a list of devices that the latest version of Instagram works on? Edit 2: Looking at Instagram in the Play Store app…

It takes some time for an update to propagate trough Google's CDN. Usually 2-3 hours.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by zachgersh » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:53 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #24

I'm curious about how this works in their existing API. Does it get dumped into the list of photos for an account, or is there a separate videos API coming?

I am willing to bet it already works with their existing API. If you check out their API docs you will see they include a "type:" attribute (which has just been image thus far).

http://instagram.com/developer/endpoints/users/

They were already prepared for video.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by 91bananas » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:53 PM UTC

cuttooth wrote: post #2

CEO spouts off a lot of words to say "we're cloning Vine"

Also to be fair, there would be no Vine without Instagram, it is almost an exact duplicate interface, with video instead of images.

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by psbp » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:55 PM UTC

dzlobin wrote: post #47

psbp wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

User uploaded ones won't autoplay, but the video ads will

You've posted several times in this thread so far complaining about the ads, do you have a source? There aren't any video ads right now nor did they specify _anything_ about how they might work. The only thing they _did_ say, was that user content won't be used in ads.

Long-rumored. Releases like this are just bringing it closer. http://adage.com/article/digital/facebook-s-video-ads-delaye...

"Based on how they were being positioned for the summer launch, video ads will appear to targeted users in their news feeds up to three times on the day they’re slotted and will begin silently playing when a user scrolls over them, according to source who heard Facebook’s pitch.

Audio won’t be activated unless a user clicks on the 15-second ad, at which point it will restart and spread over the right- and left-hand rails of the page."

Re: Video on Instagram

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Post by psbp » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:57 PM UTC

joebeetee wrote: post #6

Summary: 15 seconds of video with 13 custom filters You can choose the cover frame. Available for Android/iOS. Can view on web as well. New feature - 'Cinema' - cinematic stabilisation.

Cinema is only available on the iPhone 4S and 5.