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Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

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Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#71

FFS, the original title, something like "Mt. Gox suspends U.S. Dollar Withdrawls for two weeks", was FINE. "Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals" makes NO SENSE out of context. Mods: Please STOP rewriting titles to match the page! You're NOT doing it right!

I agree. The idea that a submitter might add some value to the summary through a better title doesn't seem strange for a site that is based around the idea that its members add value through collection and commentary upon those articles. Why is this one piece of data sacred?

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any news, no matter what it is, immediately causes panic selling. So, short term price drop. Then? Who knows?

Except that it's up slightly since this news was released.

Well, yeah, since its negative news for the expected future value of USD balances currently held on Mt.Gox, the natural result is, at least in the short-term, a drop in the value of USD on the Mt.Gox exchange, which, ceteris paribus, implies a rise in the BTC:USD exchange rate on that exchange.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#73

FFS, the original title, something like "Mt. Gox suspends U.S. Dollar Withdrawls for two weeks", was FINE. "Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals" makes NO SENSE out of context. Mods: Please STOP rewriting titles to match the page! You're NOT doing it right!

Another suggestion would be to add a little "title edited by: MOD_USERNAME" tag to any edited titles so we could at least keep track of the moderators who are doing it incorrectly. As it stands, I have no idea if pg himself edited the title or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma.

> or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma

I certainly hope moderatorship isn't granted based on a karma threshold.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#74
post #28

Hate to quote myself, but see the P.S. here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5568610 If I were a gambling man, I'd say this is quite likely to be shoe #1.

Hardly shoe #1, more like #8 or #9. With the take down of Liberty Reserve, the killing off of a number of exchanges and interfaces to exchanges, its pretty clear the US Government at least has decided to focus for a time on the financial infrastructure which underpins a big chunk of Internet criminal activity. The privacy advocates are getting somewhat caught in the crossfire.

As a company that works with internet advertisers, we see the shadowy parts of the web shimmering there on the periphery, lots of people are trying to scam Google out of some of its advertising revenue, it is a full time job to identify and quash fraudulent traffic here at Blekko, I know from experience that there are many folks at Google that do nothing but that.

But more than that, it says that these activities have reached the nation-state level of attention. Which puts the global losses in the 150 to 200 billion dollars annually.

The effect of that is what Patrick experienced where regulators start effectively 'regex' banning types of activities that are associated with these activities. It's a cold compress on an arterial bleed, not a solution but something to stem the blood loss while other measures are being taken.

It is really all about cash though. When crime doesn't pay, people don't do it. So focusing on making it hard to get paid is the strategy it seems to work on Internet criminal activity. If I had to bet I'd say that someone in the Treasury department has a goal of (ideally) making it impossible to use BitCoin to facilitate criminal activity, through a series of regulations requiring transaction reporting and verification, killing off exchanges that don't do that, and pressuring partners to do the same.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another suggestion would be to add a little "title edited by: MOD_USERNAME" tag to any edited titles so we could at least keep track of the moderators who are doing it incorrectly. As it stands, I have no idea if pg himself edited the title or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma.

> or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma I certainly hope moderatorship isn't granted based on a karma threshold.

Certain permissions are, like when you get over 500 karma for example as you should soon: you will notice a downvote option beside comments that are not a directly reply to your own.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#76
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another suggestion would be to add a little "title edited by: MOD_USERNAME" tag to any edited titles so we could at least keep track of the moderators who are doing it incorrectly. As it stands, I have no idea if pg himself edited the title or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma.

> or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma I certainly hope moderatorship isn't granted based on a karma threshold.

If it's based on a karma threshold, I haven't reached it yet, which would mean that the bar is fairly high.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#77

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Use separate hardware on public wifi. Take the battery out when you're done.

Was that a joke? What does public WiFi have to do with anything? We're talking about the NSA wiretapping Internet backbones and forging SSL certificates.

We're talking about anonymity, not secrecy.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#78
post #34
post #30

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Unfortunately true. I'd hate to tell everyone with money in mtgox that it is time for a bank run, but...

Luckily, everyone with deposits in Mt.Gox can convert them to bitcoins and send them to some other address. This is one of the benefits of Bitcoin.

That seems to be what's happening at the moment. I initially assumed this announcement would cause a panic sell-off, instead it seems as if a lot of users are now converting their USD back into BTC in light of the hiatus. The exchange rate has ticked up pretty steadily as a result.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#79
post #76
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or if it was some random user who recently acquired the correct amount of karma I certainly hope moderatorship isn't granted based on a karma threshold.

If it's based on a karma threshold, I haven't reached it yet, which would mean that the bar is fairly high.

If you want karma all you have to do is submit a lot of garbage, just keep it coming. Most of your submissions will get 0 votes, a few will get you 10 or 20 votes, and one or two will get you 300-400. That's how downvoters get their downvoting powers.

Another option is to submit quality comments for a decade without being banned for saying something against Ruby or whatever the mods are emotionally or economically attached to at the time. Then you may be able to downvote.

Re: Statement Regarding Temporary Hiatus on U.S. Dollar Withdrawals

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was that a joke? What does public WiFi have to do with anything? We're talking about the NSA wiretapping Internet backbones and forging SSL certificates.

We're talking about anonymity, not secrecy.

Oh I see. That works as long as nothing you do online can identify you. That rules out the vast majority of things people do online.
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