The Internet Just Made Microsoft Kill a Car for a Faster Horse

Post by ewbuoi » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 4:44 AM UTC

NZ_Matt wrote: post #22

proland wrote: post #8

This really just looks like sour grapes from Microsoft to me. There's no reason they couldn't have both... Buy a physical disk? Trade use it like you always have, but you don't get to make use of all the fancy cloud features. Buy your game online? You'll need to phone home every once in a while (24 hours was a bit harsh, maybe more like 1 week), and you can't trade it like physical media, but you get the fancy new le…

The problem with convert to cloud is that it would require every Xbox to go online in order to check with the mothership before running the game, even from a disk. Otherwise you'd be able to share the disk with offline users who could continue using the physical copy. They had two choices: Require an internet connection before running a game. (the 24 hour check) or The disk must be present at all times.

Post by iknowno_one » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 4:57 AM UTC

clavalle wrote: post #5

Don't worry. Valve will come out with a nice car (SteamBox) and will craft their message more carefully to make sure all of the horse lovers don't get spooked before they fall in love with the ride.

Post by ekianjo » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:01 AM UTC

mxxx wrote: post #20

chaostheory wrote: post #14

The problem is that Microsoft put a saddle on the car by offering physical discs. I really didn't see the point of it if it was always online, given that MS has their music and movie stores. Moreover it didn't really give consumers the main benefit of always on DRM: lower prices for games. This is why consumers don't care about the DRM on iOS or even Android. Another major problem is that for all the features offered…

physical discs are useful for people with always-on-but-still-painfully-slow internet, and it also was a way for MS to compromise and not piss off all the physical disc retailers, who happen to be the same people who will retail the console itself.

Post by warfangle » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:04 AM UTC

TechNewb wrote: post #44

jongraehl wrote: post #31

Some internet pundits don't understand the value of a game machine that works without ever connecting to the internet . MS wants to sell precisely one license but support both never-connected machines and cloud lending, but this was too hard for them to figure out and they're dropping the cloud part. The cloud lending facility required expiring leases (think DHCP) to guard against the possibility of a purchaser inten…

Agreed. Also, in the ever increasing world of globalization, I don't believe in region locking. Currently I own a Korean Xbox 360, as I bought it in Seoul while living there years ago. Since moving back to the US I have not bothered buying any new games mainly b/c I don't want to deal with having to worry about region locking. It will be interesting to see how ownership and digital files interact in the future. Do I…

Post by skeletonjelly » Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 5:09 AM UTC

nhangen wrote: post #28

I think the OP here is giving MS more credit than they are due. I don't believe they were trying to build a car, and I don't believe they had a messaging problem. I think they were trying to pull a bait and switch. Pitch a car and sell a faster horse. They got caught, and the Internet won. You can easily get to that conclusion by gauging the HD storage shipping with each unit. Add to that the average speed of Interne…