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haha, that was a good one :). I guess everyone on HN can keep away the swords and pitch forks now !
MySQL man pages license change is a bug
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Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#32We've seen this twice in two days now. Facebook is blocking Tor except that maybe they're not. MySQL is now under a new license, except it's not. The alarmist headlines not waiting for a response from the newly-damned organization, instead issuing a retraction after everyone has freaked out. Will the tech community ever get past the manufactured controversy and knee-jerk reaction we lambast the mainstream media for?
News at 11, citizen journalists begin acting more like real journalists by jumping the gun on stories!
You heard it here first!
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#33We've seen this twice in two days now. Facebook is blocking Tor except that maybe they're not. MySQL is now under a new license, except it's not. The alarmist headlines not waiting for a response from the newly-damned organization, instead issuing a retraction after everyone has freaked out. Will the tech community ever get past the manufactured controversy and knee-jerk reaction we lambast the mainstream media for?
You're completely right on the tor thing, but I think this MySQL one is different. I don't think this would have been considered a bug if there hadn't been negative backlash- if it had gone unnoticed or if no one had created a stink about it, then I don't think Oracle would have been nearly as eager to revert the change. Claiming it was just a build bug (that rearranged, and rewrote, their copyright and licensing info) seems more like a good way to back down from a bad change than anything else.
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#34More official comment: http://insidemysql.com/the-mysql-man-pages-are-available-und...
That is the most amazing banner image I've seen on any blog ever.
It's interesting that in order to avoid the guy's head leaning over at exactly the same angle in every picture, they flipped the image on the left horizontally.
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#35No word yet on why the source code for the MySQL documentation is no longer publicly available. Was recently and silently made unavailable. This is much worse than a few man pages.
You can download the documentation here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ Or are you referring to the scripts that generate it?
I'm referring to the source code that is used to build and generate the documentation available in that link. The MySQL documentation is written using the DocBook XML format.
Here is a link to an older version of the page where the documentation was available: http://web.archive.org/web/20121030130559/http://dev.mysql.c...
See "Documentation Repositories".
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is the most amazing banner image I've seen on any blog ever.
It's interesting that in order to avoid the guy's head leaning over at exactly the same angle in every picture, they flipped the image on the left horizontally.
Yep, the buttons on the shirt are reversed on the left image compared to the other two...
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is the most amazing banner image I've seen on any blog ever.
It's interesting that in order to avoid the guy's head leaning over at exactly the same angle in every picture, they flipped the image on the left horizontally.
I can't decide if he's doing the Blue Steel look or Le Tigre.
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#38We've seen this twice in two days now. Facebook is blocking Tor except that maybe they're not. MySQL is now under a new license, except it's not. The alarmist headlines not waiting for a response from the newly-damned organization, instead issuing a retraction after everyone has freaked out. Will the tech community ever get past the manufactured controversy and knee-jerk reaction we lambast the mainstream media for?
More like Facebook is blocking Tor except it was an accident, and MySQL is now under a new license except it was an accident. The idea of shaming people away from pointing out, and yes, speculating on the motives for these changes is a terrible idea for a forum. And if these things hadn't surfaced on HN, do you think they would have been corrected so quickly? What would the the "newly-damned organizations" be posting a response to?
Will HN ever get past all of the whiny meta about what other people are posting or upvoting?
Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#39Re: MySQL man pages license change is a bug
#40We've seen this twice in two days now. Facebook is blocking Tor except that maybe they're not. MySQL is now under a new license, except it's not. The alarmist headlines not waiting for a response from the newly-damned organization, instead issuing a retraction after everyone has freaked out. Will the tech community ever get past the manufactured controversy and knee-jerk reaction we lambast the mainstream media for?
More like Facebook is blocking Tor except it was an accident, and MySQL is now under a new license except it was an accident. The idea of shaming people away from pointing out, and yes, speculating on the motives for these changes is a terrible idea for a forum. And if these things hadn't surfaced on HN, do you think they would have been corrected so quickly? What would the the "newly-damned organizations" be posting…
Kind of an aside, but still relevant to part of your post. Whining about the content and whining about the meta whining is part of any sufficiently old community. I can recall from communities I've managed, and from ones I've participated in there's /always/ metacommentary and metametacommentary. The best thing to do in these cases is not to engage it. But no, HN will never get past all the whiny meta and there's very little we can do about it except letting it slide :(
Quick Edit: This is one of the reasons why I love discourse, it encourages metadiscussion in a separate part, and while it doesn't keep it from contaminating, it seriously helps a lot to focus it and guide it.