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Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facial recognition is, amusingly, flagging other people as Snowden. "Is this you?"

On facial recognition: my understanding is that in addition to using data points that are relatively easy to change with makeup or surgery (cheekbone height, nose, etc), they use some that are not such as eyeball distance. However, could the eyeball based datapoints be tricked with specially crafted lenses in glasses frames?

Sun glasses? (or polarized glasses)

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On facial recognition: my understanding is that in addition to using data points that are relatively easy to change with makeup or surgery (cheekbone height, nose, etc), they use some that are not such as eyeball distance. However, could the eyeball based datapoints be tricked with specially crafted lenses in glasses frames?

Sun glasses? (or polarized glasses)

But they could pass a law prohibiting the covering of your face like in France. "The French ban on face covering (...) is an act of parliament passed by the Senate of France on 14 September 2010, resulting in the ban on the wearing of face-covering headgear, including masks, helmets, balaclava, niqābs and other veils covering the face in public places, except under specified circumstances.

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering )

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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post #31
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On facial recognition: my understanding is that in addition to using data points that are relatively easy to change with makeup or surgery (cheekbone height, nose, etc), they use some that are not such as eyeball distance. However, could the eyeball based datapoints be tricked with specially crafted lenses in glasses frames?

Sun glasses? (or polarized glasses)

Sun glasses have the disadvantage of standing out indoors. Polarized glasses is an interesting idea though..

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney: "But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to th…

I read the transcript to this interview a few days ago, before Snowden did his recent Q&A session. In that session he seemed to directly address the charge of being a traitor, he said:

"Second, let's be clear: I did not reveal any US operations against legitimate military targets. I pointed out where the NSA has hacked civilian infrastructure such as universities, hospitals, and private businesses because it is dangerous. These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash. Congress hasn't declared war on the countries - the majority of them are our allies - but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people."

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney: "But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to th…

Binney also said he should be prosecuted... 'after all the leaders of the previous administration...after the current administration.. and the leaders of the NSA, in order, then perhaps Snowden', so I don't think your quote above out of context really does his views justice.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Interesting that no one seems to be talking about what a treasure-trove such a storage system would be for organized crime and foreign intelligence services (such as China). Imagine if someone could compromise it and get to the same data. Doesn't seem all that far-fetched.

This data could probably also be analyzed to help predict the stock market.

Or to predict elections. I'd recommend anyone running an election against a sitting president to encrypt all their email, probably with an encryption scheme not endorsed by NIST/NSA... or at a sufficiently high encryption level. Imagine preparing for a televised debate when you can access the competition's correspondence?

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This data could probably also be analyzed to help predict the stock market.

Even better: Use the data to figure out when and where the citizens are going to organize a protest against the current government....

While the recent IRS disclosures of targeting Tea Party activists is deplorable, I'm still optimistic that it's the exception and not the rule in the US.

Criminals gaining this access is definitely plausible.

Foreign governments using it for oppression/retaliation is also very plausible.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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post #15

It's been purported here that the media is coloring its reporting to paint Snowden in a bad light. But when the bias favors Snowden, everyone looks the other way. For instance, they conveniently left out any mention of this quote by Binney: "But now he is starting to talk about things like the government hacking into China and all this kind of thing. He is going a little bit too far. I don't think he had access to th…

Personally, I think Binney has a difficult time speaking and, if he had written out his response, would have chosen a different word than "traitor," just based on the way he stuttered and struggled to complete that sentence.

I think you're right, and I think grey-area's quote (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5902353) is probably more indicative of Binney's view. But his tentative way of speaking is for me one of the things that makes him both charming and compelling. I may be naive, but he strikes me as a decent person. (Actually, all four of them did.) I also love how Binney can't help but blurt out what goes through his mind sometimes, and the geeky passion with which he launches into his plan for how to do things better, if anyone expresses the least interest.

Re: Former NSA Employees Praise Edward Snowden, Corroborate Key Claims

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This data could probably also be analyzed to help predict the stock market.

Or to predict elections. I'd recommend anyone running an election against a sitting president to encrypt all their email, probably with an encryption scheme not endorsed by NIST/NSA... or at a sufficiently high encryption level. Imagine preparing for a televised debate when you can access the competition's correspondence?

Why does NSA endorsement of an encryption scheme mean anything, after hundreds of thousands of man-hours have been spent auditing and attempting to break those systems?

Auditing is more important than origins. See also, Tor.

The days of DES S-boxes are behind us, and in fact, the NSA's meddling helped the security of that scheme, though that fact wasn't known until decades later.

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