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Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by dylangs1030 »

score wrote: post #88
yuvadam wrote: post #41

The privatized 'public' space makes an inevitable move. Facebook can no longer stake any preposterous claim to "help people connect better". It is a business entity - always has been - and does not give half a damn about "making the world a better place", or whatever corporate marketing catchphrase they use right now. Related to recent events or not, the privatized internet is continuing to backlash with severe conse…

Google and Facebook are part of the military surveillance complex, it's as simple as that. They are privatized surveillance companies who serve the US government. It should be considered enemy soil for anyone who believes in privacy and freedom.

This is ridiculous. They're not part of a conspiracy. They're businesses that sometimes have a strategic advantage for the government, for which the government requires a legal precedent to access. That is all. Stop with the dramatic hyperbole.

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by unreal37 »

diminoten wrote: post #108
unreal37 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before the downvote brigade comes out in full force, stop and think a second. The US government is building its own map of all our social connections for everyone worldwide, not just suspects but everyone. It will know the names of everyone you know, how well you know them, even down to the date that you met them and dates that you were in the same location together. Why WOULD anyone who cares about their anonymity u…

> I am wondering why I use Facebook even. Because, as much as you shout and holler about your privacy being violated, and as much as you act like you value said privacy, you're more than willing to give it up for a modicum of convenience. You, me, and everyone else. Anyone who still uses a 3rd party to handle unencrypted data they expect to remain private is simply uninformed. Period.

There needs to be a way to have a foot in each world. Total online privacy and anonymity when you want it, and ability to use facebook, twitter, hacker news, and other sites where you know and expect to be tracked.

Like Chrome's "incognito mode" that extends beyond cookies to an anonymous network identity. Like using Tor through a VPN tunnel, I guess.

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by diminoten »

unreal37 wrote: post #122
diminoten wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am wondering why I use Facebook even. Because, as much as you shout and holler about your privacy being violated, and as much as you act like you value said privacy, you're more than willing to give it up for a modicum of convenience. You, me, and everyone else. Anyone who still uses a 3rd party to handle unencrypted data they expect to remain private is simply uninformed. Period.

There needs to be a way to have a foot in each world. Total online privacy and anonymity when you want it, and ability to use facebook, twitter, hacker news, and other sites where you know and expect to be tracked. Like Chrome's "incognito mode" that extends beyond cookies to an anonymous network identity. Like using Tor through a VPN tunnel, I guess.

I think we should separate the things which aren't so important to protect (FB conversations, Reddit comments, Netflix traffic, etc.) from the things which MUST be private and secure (bank data, classified data, misc. data which you want guarantees about security on). Different sandboxes for different things. There's no reason my Pinterest account needs to be as secure as my government's troop deployments.

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by hobs »

drcube wrote: post #95
hobs wrote: post #64

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Yep, your parent presupposes people get better at computers. Moore's law does not apply to people.

I disagree. Only 20 years ago the GP would be saying "Only techies use email, web, etc." People get better at this stuff, but slowly. The current privacy issue is growing in the public consciousness, spurring action from "techies". Maybe 20 years from now easy to use encryption will be the norm, even among regular people.

That's a fair point. However, I still see the contraction of skills being greater as the web caters to those without them, and people's skill atrophying.

For instance, Facebook messaging vs instant messaging. For most standard users I know, they have literally lost any reason to use an alternate client, and many of them will probably never become familiar with one as a result.

Anyway, its a wait and see situation, hopefully we are both around to see!

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by alan_cx »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #26
alan_cx wrote: post #15

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The article simply states the issue. Its not up to the writer to come up with excuses for facebook, which if you are really hot on bad journalists you would rightly write off a mere speculation. Its up to facebook to explain their position. If their excuse turns out to be a reasonable reason, then lets hear it.

It's up to the journalist to investigate and find out why Facebook is doing this so he can write a more complete story.

That term "more complete" is your own standard, and not one of journalism. "More complete" can go on for ever.

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by alan_cx »

bpatrianakos wrote: post #30
alan_cx wrote: post #15

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The article simply states the issue. Its not up to the writer to come up with excuses for facebook, which if you are really hot on bad journalists you would rightly write off a mere speculation. Its up to facebook to explain their position. If their excuse turns out to be a reasonable reason, then lets hear it.

I don't think Facebook is really obligated to explain especially if its for some security reason or automatic. What's bad about the article is that it leads you down a certain way of thinking without really saying so.

Not in detail, no. But it can give a general, reasonable sounding statement to counter the article.

Re: Facebook is Blocking Connections from Tor Network

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Post by halfcat »

dylangs1030 wrote: post #121
score wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google and Facebook are part of the military surveillance complex, it's as simple as that. They are privatized surveillance companies who serve the US government. It should be considered enemy soil for anyone who believes in privacy and freedom.

This is ridiculous. They're not part of a conspiracy. They're businesses that sometimes have a strategic advantage for the government, for which the government requires a legal precedent to access. That is all. Stop with the dramatic hyperbole.

The coverup continues...
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