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Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness

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Re: Prominent Scientists Sign Declaration that Animals have Conscious Awareness

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How does consciousness imply morality?

Not that correlation implies causation, but as of yet, consciousness is only considered in creatures which also recognize morality.

Not recognised as you say, except by the signatories of this on July 7th 2012.

http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConscious...

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Old. July 2012... EDIT: to clarify, the title is very confusing because it makes you think they just signed it. It should be completed by a "2012" in the end. That's why I was disappointed when following the link. Nothing new.

I guess it is no longer relevant.

No, it is, but I am just wondering why it pops up here in a sudden while there's no specific news attached to it.

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I guess it is no longer relevant.

No, it is, but I am just wondering why it pops up here in a sudden while there's no specific news attached to it.

Fuck the news, acquire knowledge. :D The reason it pops up is someone noticed it, posted it online, and it grew viral because it's something people like to hear.

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How does consciousness imply morality?

That is of course a big philosophical question. But in lieu of diving into that, because Wikipedia says so: Conscience is an aptitude, faculty, intuition or judgment of the intellect that distinguishes right from wrong. Moral judgment may derive from values or norms (principles and rules). In psychological terms conscience is often described as leading to feelings of remorse when a human commits actions that go again…

Wrong word. Consciousness, not conscience.

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No, it is, but I am just wondering why it pops up here in a sudden while there's no specific news attached to it.

Fuck the news, acquire knowledge. :D The reason it pops up is someone noticed it, posted it online, and it grew viral because it's something people like to hear.

AGain, why not mention its from 2012 in the title then? That's what people do on HN for older contents. and if you f* the news then why do you come on a website that has NEWS in its title?

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Does this mean they know right from wrong? The article isn't very clear on what conscious awareness means.

A computer can easily know right from wrong to the degree most humans are capable of (and too often they aren't very sophisticated at that) even today. But it's safe to assume that that ARM processor has no conscious awareness. Conscious awareness is simply the feeling of observing things, a feeling we assume the machines we've built do not have, for example.

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Does this mean they know right from wrong? The article isn't very clear on what conscious awareness means.

A computer can easily know right from wrong to the degree most humans are capable of (and too often they aren't very sophisticated at that) even today. But it's safe to assume that that ARM processor has no conscious awareness. Conscious awareness is simply the feeling of observing things, a feeling we assume the machines we've built do not have, for example.

Only if you program into the computer what is wrong and what is right.
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