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Re: San Francisco

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Post by philsnow »

baddox wrote: post #230
philsnow wrote: post #97

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in SF, summer is often colder than winter. I've never lived in DC, but - presence of good chinese food - weather (even though I love winter weather, DC summers would not be worth it) - jobs (which companies have large presences in SF vs DC-area) all conspire to make me completely incurious as to whether DC is "$11k/year" nicer than SF.

> in SF, summer is often colder than winter. A common misconception, even among residents, easily debunked by paying attention or doing a quick Google search: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco#Climate http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;q=san%20francisco

SF itself has even more fine-grained microclimates than the peninsula (which only has a few). I didn't (immediately) find out how the wikipedia climate numbers were assembled nor what weather station(s) weatherspark gets data from, but if it's a single weather station, the data gathered is nigh-useless.

weatherspark looks very nice btw, I'm going to go look if they have an android app.... seems there isn't one. oh well.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by NoPiece »

steveklabnik wrote: post #73
NoPiece wrote: post #56

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You misquoted Salon - they said below or /near/ the poverty line. And near is highly subjective. The census number they cite in the article is 15% which is a long way from half, and there is nothing in the article that gets the number to half the population.

Note the difference in the URL vs the final title: it's why I misquoted, accidentally.

Sorry, didn't mean to nitpick the misquote as much as to point out that the implication seems far from reality: 15% actual poverty rate vs the 50% implied by Salon. I'm sure the people living between 16% and 20% aren't living large, but the article doesn't support the 50% claim.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by caniszczyk »

rahilsondhi wrote: post #214
nilkn wrote: post #198

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Overall, SF makes me feel like the standard of living for developers is really going down, not up. For all that the startup culture has produced, it has also encouraged lots of people to basically save no money and significantly reduce their living standards all for the sake of "doing a startup." I'm always shocked to hear so many stories of people living in near poverty to work on a startup idea which is, in total h…

The roommate thing is really annoying. I'm a grown man with a full time job paying $100k+ and I gave to have roommates? That was not in the plan...

Good luck affording a house :)

Re: San Francisco

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Post by look_lookatme »

marcinw wrote: post #131
look_lookatme wrote: post #24

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Well some people's priorities might involve having an active social life, dressing well, paying for entertainment, etc... all of which will be expensive. It's not a "lack" of priorities, it's just a different set of them.

And that's your problem. I was the same way, though I live in NYC. With every pay raise I upgraded my lifestyle. Whether I was making $50k/year or $100k/year, I wasn't saving anything more besides the shit I was contributing to my 401k. My savings actually grew smaller over the years, until I made a conscious effort to save money. An effort so simple, I kick myself for not realizing it sooner. Several simple ways I f…

I'm not complaining about anything, I'm just pointing out that for some people saving money isn't their first or only priority, but doesn't mean they have no priorities.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by IAmScumbagSteve »

upquark wrote: post #151
eli wrote: post #120

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$1,400 isn't going to get you your dream apartment, but it's a reasonable budget for a one bedroom apartment that's in DC and not in a bad neighborhood. It's also pretty common to live outside the city and commute in on Metro (DC's Metro is built more like a commuter rail than a urban subway system).

I wouldn't say 1.4k is a reasonable rent in DC, not in my experience at least. Not even if you move out to the nearby suburbs.

I currently live in the DC suburb of Fairfax. My rent is $675. I'm renting a room in a 4 bedroom 3.5 bathroom house. I had a friend that came down from New York to visit. He joked that my kitchen was the size of his apartment.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by lakethun »

egometry wrote: post #74
lakethun wrote: post #68

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Your impressions are incorrect. From a comment above: Persons under 18 (2010 Census) US 23.7% [2] SF 13.5% [3] [2] http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html [3] http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06/06075.html

These two posts are not incompatible. That 13.5% of kids needs to live somewhere. I'd bet that a heatmap would show "kid locuses" in some neighborhoods and "kid voids" in others.

They are not incompatible only if by "tons" you mean "half as many". I would expect some areas of San Francisco to have more kids than others but overall the number is very low.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by aashay »

rdouble wrote: post #246
aashay wrote: post #245

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For someone who is considering moving to Oakland in less than 2 months, can you comment on the safety of the other Oakland BART station areas (12th & 19th)? I honestly can't get a good read on Oakland anymore. So many people (yourself included) say that there are plenty of safe places to live in Oakland but crime maps suggest otherwise, especially within walking distance to BART stations. I live in Berkeley now and I…

Its boosters will suggest otherwise, but Oakland is pretty sketchy. Everyone I know there has been jacked at one point. It's just a matter of time. That said, the only place I've personally been held up at gunpoint in the Bay Area was in Berkeley. (San Pablo and Dwight area)

Sorry you had to go through that. I live downtown now on University (and I'm probably gonna try and stay downtown) and I pretty much never go west of Sacramento, that area is pretty sketch.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by malyk »

Throwadev wrote: post #90
pfarrell wrote: post #87

I moved to the Bay Area, with my family, 8 months ago. We tried to make SF work (and did live in temporary housing in SOMA for three months), but SF is not a place for young children (unless you are beyond financial constraints). I commute to SOMA every day from Rockridge. Rockridge is nice, except for Oakland's inability to provide an adequately sized police force! All the tech things antirez outlined are true, but…

Can you elaborate on lack of police? Have you been affected by the crime in Rockridge? I thought it was a pretty decent area the last time I visited.

Apparently Oakland is running a handful of police academy's this year in an effort to increase the size of the force. Salary's start in the $80's I think before overtime. Might be a pretty lucrative position.

And you get to shoot people at will! (ok, not really, but my cop friend says a lot of their "what not to do" case studies come out of oakland.)

Hopefully more officers on the street will help the incidence of crime, but I'm not convinced. Time will tell.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by dcgwu »

ryanSrich wrote: post #80

Eh. They can keep it. • Average engineering salary in sf: 116K / year [1] • Average rent for a one bedroom: $2,700 / month [2] After taxes you're coming in around 72k / year - 32k / year for rent You'll have roughly 40k to play with. That may sound like a lot but factor in food, health care, travel, energy, internet, phone, and numerous miscellaneous expenses and you'll be hard pressed to save anything over 10k a yea…

Dc is primarily made up of takers, Sf is filled with doers. Don't mistake the fed govt parasite contractors for true hackers, it just ain't so.

Re: San Francisco

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Post by Zhenya »

rahilsondhi wrote: post #214
nilkn wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overall, SF makes me feel like the standard of living for developers is really going down, not up. For all that the startup culture has produced, it has also encouraged lots of people to basically save no money and significantly reduce their living standards all for the sake of "doing a startup." I'm always shocked to hear so many stories of people living in near poverty to work on a startup idea which is, in total h…

The roommate thing is really annoying. I'm a grown man with a full time job paying $100k+ and I gave to have roommates? That was not in the plan...

You know, a working spouse can count as a roommate. And think, you can do your grown-man-thang.
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