AngularJS versus Ember

Post by ctvo » Sun, Jun 16, 2013, 8:48 PM UTC

camus wrote: post #26

saurabhnanda wrote: post #17

Is there anyone out there who has written non-trivial applications (i.e. a _lot more_ than the quintessential todo app) in both, AngularJS & EmberJS and can offer a non-biased opinion? Some time ago, I started off with AngularJS, I liked what I saw (except the dirty checking part) and started building my product / startup with it. I don't have the time to stop all dev and experiment with EmberJS, but would like to kn…

there is no directives in EmberJS , you could use any DOM templating engine ( =/= string template engine like Mustach ) with it I guess to get something similar to directives.

Post by steveklabnik » Sun, Jun 16, 2013, 8:49 PM UTC

3pt14159 wrote: post #47

olalonde wrote: post #12

A higher level framework makes you more productive but a single bug can get you stuck for hours, days or weeks. A lower level framework doesn't make you as much productive but you have a better mental model of what is going on and bugs get solved quickly. Keep in mind when choosing a framework.

THIS! This is exactly what I was trying to figure out how to type. Right now ember is especially hard to learn since it is constantly changing and ember-data isn't done yet. As a result there are 5 different ways of doing something and when you get stuck you finally solve it by finding someone else who had the same problem and that is when you learn that the tutorial was for rc3, not rc5. But the huge problem is that…

Post by yajoe » Sun, Jun 16, 2013, 8:51 PM UTC

pbiggar wrote: post #44

yajoe wrote: post #13

As a gentle reminder, Fred Brooks said "there are no silver bullets" in software ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet ). Even without knowing the details of this article, I believe it's unlikely that "not even close" is at all accurate. There likely are advantages, but from my experience (10k+ LOC apps on each Ember, Angular, and Backbone) no one MVC (or MV-) framework is inherently better. They all have s…

> 10k+ apps on each Ember, Angular, and Backbone Have you written about them? I haven't come across anyone who has enough experience with more than one of them to comment broadly.

Post by vectorpush » Sun, Jun 16, 2013, 8:53 PM UTC

onli wrote: post #39

vectorpush wrote: post #36

At that point, what was the advantage of Sinatra? You were basically running a Rails application. I disagree. I've built many applications using both frameworks and Rails is overkill 80% of the time, especially in front-end heavy apps where most of your routes are GET/POSTing JSON data.

Note the "At that point". The author claims that if you use sinatra and install ActiveRecord, and basically everything else that defines Rails, you are just running Rails without running Rails. He is right. I like to write my own SQL-Queries, so Sinatra is the better choice. But if you'd want to use an ORM, why not directly use Rails?

Post by pbiggar » Sun, Jun 16, 2013, 9:06 PM UTC

yajoe wrote: post #75

pbiggar wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 10k+ apps on each Ember, Angular, and Backbone Have you written about them? I haven't come across anyone who has enough experience with more than one of them to comment broadly.

I'm definitely not qualified to provide an opinion. My short summary: Backbone was tiring for me and my partner with all the files and code to set up each view. I also never liked putting templates in script tags -- it just felt dirty. We see Ember and Angular as similar (how do you pick which language you like?), and we only picked one for atheistic reasons (data-binding in HTML) in our current project. Since I have…