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Re: Project Loon

#161

It's fascinating to see how well Google has branched out. It started as just a search engine competing with Lycos, AltaVista, & Yahoo and yet they didn't just stop, they kept going. They built all these new services & products around their core product (search) and it's paid off tremendously. It's definitely something to model future companies off of. When you win the race, don't stop, keep running.

Building computer networks and artificial intelligence are pretty much Google's core competencies. Most if not all other companies would struggle to fund and develop this project. First of all, the system is in total very expensive: You don't get any coverage with just a few baloons, you probably need hundreds to make any of them stay connected to the rest of the internet most of the time. Second, this system is extr…

> This is a very exciting problem once you think about it...

That's a good summary of why Google has been so successful.

They have a way of making engineers and regular people really excited about their projects. It's a feedback loop - have exciting stuff, recruit smarter people, work on more exciting stuff.

Re: Project Loon

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As far as I know there is no international agreement on this. Altitude can vary from 30Km to 160Km. Most countries seem to claim somewhere between 70Km and 100Km as their airspace. If someone has more details on this, it's very welcome.

This master's thesis from 2005 ("The Vertical Limit of State Sovereignty") has a fairly comprehensive account of the history and present state of international law in this area: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA436627

I'm familiar with that. And the guy proposes 22Km as the limit.

Besides, a lot has changed in the use of airspace and space in the last 8 years.

Yet, I don't know of any authoritative source for the actual current claims of most countries.

Re: Project Loon

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know there is no international agreement on this. Altitude can vary from 30Km to 160Km. Most countries seem to claim somewhere between 70Km and 100Km as their airspace. If someone has more details on this, it's very welcome.

This master's thesis from 2005 ("The Vertical Limit of State Sovereignty") has a fairly comprehensive account of the history and present state of international law in this area: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA436627

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Re: Project Loon

#164

It's so encouraging to see a Hacker News comment section that is almost overwhelming informative and positive. I get varying amounts of flak for constantly posting about the quality and nature of HN comments, but as an unabashed optimist it means a lot to me to me.

Oh shut up.

Re: Project Loon

#166

It's fascinating to see how well Google has branched out. It started as just a search engine competing with Lycos, AltaVista, & Yahoo and yet they didn't just stop, they kept going. They built all these new services & products around their core product (search) and it's paid off tremendously. It's definitely something to model future companies off of. When you win the race, don't stop, keep running.

Almost everything they're done is centered around ads and getting more data on their users to sell more ads. Even this project, in the end it's about getting more people online to look at their ads. (not sure how much ad revenue you can get from poor places, but whatever) EDIT: To those saying they're playing the long game; Playing the long game doesn't make sense. The long game is being fully wired. By the time poor…

Joke: Maybe they have some incentive from NSA or whatever to get and store information from everyone on this planet.

Re: Project Loon

#167
Awesome idea!!! This will eventually provide alternative to the current telecom carriers.... In the long run they could provide the service free for Google Wallet users... They'll make profit on Wallet transaction...

Re: Project Loon

#168
I'm curious as to the commercial viability of this. Will Google offer access for free or will you require a subscription? As a throwaway account mentioned, Space Data Corp. already offers this kind of service, but to large industrial companies, that can afford to pay a lot more than people in currently disconnected regions.

Re: Project Loon

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>I wonder if Google did this, partially to piss China off. Clearly, not. China has enough air power (including drones) to shut down any amount of the balloons.

I don't think conventional drones can fly that high.

Missiles can.
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