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Re: Glasshole

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Post by ntumlin »

lmkg wrote: post #41

So I just remembered that I actually have some personal experience with this issue. My girlfriend is getting her PhD in computer vision, and one of her labmates was working on summarization algorithms (imagine a program that could take 6 hours of continuous footage, and spit out a 1-minute highlight reel). She volunteered to wear a camera for a day to gather data for him, and she asked me permission to do so while we…

Personally, I don't have a problem with people seeing footage of me in public. Well, not too much. I've always thought that since 1) the recording is legal (AFAIK) and 2) I'm okay with it, everyone else should be and if they aren't, too bad. I've come to realize that this is a Terrible Thought.

PRISM is (arguably) legal, and there are plenty of people that support it, yet I am completely against the program. This is probably just a me thing, but in case it isn't, just be aware that because you think being recorded in public is okay that everyone else is.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

wonderzombie wrote: post #36
enraged_camel wrote: post #16

I think there is good discussion to be had here, but holy shit , I have never been able to get over how utterly pretentious Jerry's writing is. The comics are usually fantastic and at strange odds with the accompanying news.

The man loves words and writing and such. I don't think there's anything pretentious about it.

I've noticed many criticisms here on hackernews of using artistic license in writing as coming off as pretentious or egotistical; it almost seems to be a bout of anti-intellectualism. I would personally love to be able to write at Jerry's level, he definitely has talent.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by lostlogin »

bentcorner wrote: post #49
doktrin wrote: post #29

It will take a while before I am comfortable with others wearing Glass around me. The thought of speaking to someone wearing the device makes me a little uncomfortable. I realize that may sound a little luddite-esque to certain members of this community, but there you have it. This is a resistance that I'm sure is shared by many in the general public. It's something we all may get used to eventually, but I honestly p…

> The thought of speaking to someone wearing the device makes me a little uncomfortable. I realize that may sound a little luddite-esque to certain members of this community, but there you have it. Not to me. It's the social equivalent of walking around holding your smartphone, recording everything. Sure, you might not actually be recording everything, but when you hold it up like that I have no idea if you are. An a…

Your behaviour doesn't change when someone points a camera at you? At least with a cell phone you get a few clues that someone might be recording and get a choice about whether to modify behaviour or not.

Re: Glasshole

#54

Post by seanmcdirmid »

wisty wrote: post #39
enraged_camel wrote: post #16

I think there is good discussion to be had here, but holy shit , I have never been able to get over how utterly pretentious Jerry's writing is. The comics are usually fantastic and at strange odds with the accompanying news.

He probably writes the way he speaks. Bad idea. People are generally fantastic at parsing speech, and terrible at parsing writing. Or, as I'd say it: Well, if I had to guess, I'd say he probably writes in a similar way to the way he speaks; or at least; the way he would like to speak if he had three minutes to think up every sentence he had to utter. This may not be such a good idea as it sounds, unless you have a te…

Writing like you speak is actually an excellent idea! Mark Twain was one of the best authors of relatively recent history.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

doktrin wrote: post #29

It will take a while before I am comfortable with others wearing Glass around me. The thought of speaking to someone wearing the device makes me a little uncomfortable. I realize that may sound a little luddite-esque to certain members of this community, but there you have it. This is a resistance that I'm sure is shared by many in the general public. It's something we all may get used to eventually, but I honestly p…

It's not like CCTVs are pervasive already. Anyways, they'll eventually get Glass down to where it's unnoticeable, then the awkwardness will disappear even if...the problem still exists.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by Kylekramer »

marshray wrote: post #34
Kylekramer wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The companies implicated in PRISM already produce the software and/or hardware for the vast majority of computers and smartphones in the world. Seems like if you are convinced that PRISM is as far reaching and effective as being able to turn Glass in a remote recording device for the NSA, the magitude would hardly change much.

You don't see the difference between say, having a camera next to you on the seat of your car and driving the Google StreetView car everywhere you go?

Given how ubiquitous Androids, iOS, Kinect, OSX, and Windows devices are, no. Chances are if you are in any populated area, a camera (and perhaps more importantly, microphone, given that mics are omnidirectional) associated with one PRISM company being on you is extremely high. Glass would merely be a snowdrift on top of Everest.

Of course, it is important to note I don't believe PRISM is anywhere near as effective as many around here do.

Re: Glasshole

#57

Post by Uhhrrr »

JDGM wrote: post #8

I was amazed to see this on the front page, assuming it was a link to today's comic, which would possibly have been the first time I witnessed a non-xkcd submitted to HN. That would've been cool, it's a good one. The fact that this is actually a link to the accompanying article from Tycho is great as his pieces are usually quite interesting but I miss out because they don't come up on the Penny Arcade website until a…

The Tycho essay is on the main URL and (almost?) always contains a link to the day's comic. So the essay can't come out ahead of time.

I speculate that their "use model" is that you click refresh on the main site on MWF until the new essay comes up, then click through to the comic. Of course if you use an RSS feed or click refresh on the comic page, it makes less sense.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by r00fus »

ironchief wrote: post #3

He brings up a very good point that a lot the information humans pickup is from each other's faces. The nonverbal feedback facilitates turn-taking in conversation as well as emotional feedback. Perhaps Glass causes visceral reactions because of the combination of its foreignness (unlike glasses) and proximity to the face.

The fact that having glasses/ocular implants that embed electronics already have many negative connotations re-inforced by mainstream media [1] doesn't help acceptance of Glass either.

I know that my views on Glass (negative) would be a 180degree shift if it didn't have a camera mounted on it. I respect others' privacy and I feel pointing a camera is a form of "brandishing"

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Picard_as_Locutus.jpg

Re: Glasshole

#59

Post by bquarant »

In the morning! Glasshole was used first by Adam Curry on the No Agenda Show, even before it was used by Leo Laporte on TWiT.

Re: Glasshole

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Post by showerst »

ntumlin wrote: post #51
lmkg wrote: post #41

So I just remembered that I actually have some personal experience with this issue. My girlfriend is getting her PhD in computer vision, and one of her labmates was working on summarization algorithms (imagine a program that could take 6 hours of continuous footage, and spit out a 1-minute highlight reel). She volunteered to wear a camera for a day to gather data for him, and she asked me permission to do so while we…

Personally, I don't have a problem with people seeing footage of me in public. Well, not too much. I've always thought that since 1) the recording is legal (AFAIK) and 2) I'm okay with it, everyone else should be and if they aren't, too bad. I've come to realize that this is a Terrible Thought. PRISM is (arguably) legal, and there are plenty of people that support it, yet I am completely against the program. This is…

The interesting thing about glass is how quickly it blurs the definition of 'public'. I know that anything I say out loud on a street corner is fair game, and (less explicitly) in a restaurant or bar, but what about a house party? At a friends' dinner table? While watering my back lawn in my gym shorts?

Right now the obviousness of (most) recording sets the social norm at "don't point a camera at someone in most situations without consent". When the norm changes to "Always have the camera on and pointing, but please use your judgement about when to record", that will have some serious effects.

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