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Re: Google Likes To Steal Others' Thunder

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I think that a portion of this is due to Google's unusual hierarchy model. Between the 20% time projects and the large number of small, loosely related teams, they're constantly trying new strategies (whether internally or in the market). When a related idea makes headlines, it makes sense to release both to make google look good ("We're one step ahead of you..."), and to draw traffic to otherwise unnoticed projects.…

While I largely agree, there are downsides to launching so many "project" services. They end up with a lot of half-baked products under the Google brand. The end result is that I'm wary of investing time in new Google services. As a business owner, its of the utmost importance to me that my vendors are in for the long haul, and outside of its core areas I don't feel that way about Google. Google Talk is a great examp…

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From the article: "Can you imagine Walmart making wholesale changes to its stores because mom and pop's store on the corner implemented some neat features for its customers?" Yes, if Wal-Mart had the magical power to allow 1% of its visitors to walk through the door to a completely different store , they would have the power to experiment with a lot of things that would arguably make the shopping experience better. I…

Walmart does A/B tests too, they just make the changes to a single store to hit that same 1% of its visitors

My understanding is that major walk-in retailers like Wal-Mart do multivariate testing to maximize the conclusions they can draw from simultaneous experiments. Apparently an approach called 'taguchi split testing' is especially valuable for evaluating combinations of changes, and is also applied in online situations that go beyond simple A/B testing.

Re: Google Likes To Steal Others' Thunder

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While I largely agree, there are downsides to launching so many "project" services. They end up with a lot of half-baked products under the Google brand. The end result is that I'm wary of investing time in new Google services. As a business owner, its of the utmost importance to me that my vendors are in for the long haul, and outside of its core areas I don't feel that way about Google. Google Talk is a great examp…

Google Talk is based on XMPP, although their implementation of it is supposedly not up to par. I know I can use my gtalk account through pidgin's implementation of XMMP, though. Gtalk isn't that bad - I know a lot more people who use that than, say, AIM or Yahoo. The client is better than iChat, at least. What do you use for instant messaging? Time Warner is spinning off AOL. What if AOL finally goes under? Yahoo pro…

I'm a fool, I meant Google Voice instead of Google Talk, the service they built out of GrandCentral. I don't trust Google to stay interested in the Voice product long enough to change my primary phone number.

Good idea about running our own XMPP server, thanks. If we start interacting with our clients more via chat that would definitely be the way to go.

FWIW, for instant messaging I primarily use Skype, although I have had an AIM account for 10+ years.

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