He'd be an idiot to come here, the UK government thinks the sun shines out of the USA's ass.
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden not welcome in the UK
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#32As a UK citizen I feel that he certainly hasn't done me any harm and probably has done quite a lot of good so I find it bizarre that the government would make such a statement, especially as he would be mad to consider coming here! I presume the real reasons for this are: - To show solidarity with the US (presumably the NSA and GCHQ are as thick as thieves) - So he doesn't give anyone at GCHQ ideas I'm going to write…
Why is it bizarre ? The UK government simply doesn't want a repeat of the diplomatic mess that was Julian Assange's asylum claim.
I find it bizarre that they feel the need to make the statement - it's not like there is any chance he would be considering coming here.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great link, I will write to mine now. Any ideas what kind of thing to write and how to structure it? I've never done this kind of thing before so any help would be great :-)
If you want to be taken seriously then keep it respectful. MPs regard themselves as representatives who use their own judgement, not delegates who have to do what their constituents tell them. Do not rant. Outline your concerns clearly and directly, request that they take some form of action, and ask them to reply to you giving their views and what action they took. Remember that the MP will expect requests to be som…
I emphasise, do not rant - my partner worked in an MPs office answering the mail, you don't want to fall into that category, which is still read and responded to, but which is almost never actioned/considered seriously/even read (by the MP themselves) in any way.
bad signs - all caps, more than a page long, written on a typewriter, hand written in illegible writing, etc.
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#34Related: "Senior politicians from across the political divide have united to call for UK security services to be given greater internet monitoring powers" [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22891845
And this is the point at which they no longer represent us but themselves.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to be taken seriously then keep it respectful. MPs regard themselves as representatives who use their own judgement, not delegates who have to do what their constituents tell them. Do not rant. Outline your concerns clearly and directly, request that they take some form of action, and ask them to reply to you giving their views and what action they took. Remember that the MP will expect requests to be som…
I emphasise, do not rant - my partner worked in an MPs office answering the mail, you don't want to fall into that category, which is still read and responded to, but which is almost never actioned/considered seriously/even read (by the MP themselves) in any way. bad signs - all caps, more than a page long, written on a typewriter, hand written in illegible writing, etc.
Wait, why is "written on a typewriter" a bad sign?
There seems nothing particularly suspicious about handwriting either, though as a practical matter, legibility might be a problem...
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#36That is fun. But they do have the right according to wikipedia. The treaty has been claimed to be one-sided[3] because it allows the US to extradite UK citizens and others for offences committed against US law, even though the alleged offence may have been committed in the UK by a person living and working in the UK (see for example the NatWest Three), and there being no reciprocal right; and issues about the level o…
Exactly, yes.
More over, the US doesn't NOT need to show evidence. It just needs to make the claim and say that it has evidence. No UK court gets to see any evidence at all.
IIRC, it was supposed to be two way, but the US never signed off on it's half of it, while we good little Brits let the legislation sail through.
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#37After Assange this is a surprise?
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#38"The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to discuss the matter publicly." The irony is delicious.
But, what does he have to hide??????????
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#39That is fun. But they do have the right according to wikipedia. The treaty has been claimed to be one-sided[3] because it allows the US to extradite UK citizens and others for offences committed against US law, even though the alleged offence may have been committed in the UK by a person living and working in the UK (see for example the NatWest Three), and there being no reciprocal right; and issues about the level o…
Exactly, yes. More over, the US doesn't NOT need to show evidence. It just needs to make the claim and say that it has evidence. No UK court gets to see any evidence at all. IIRC, it was supposed to be two way, but the US never signed off on it's half of it, while we good little Brits let the legislation sail through.
I think we'd be better off in the UK with Europe and Russia on our side these days.
In fact we'd probably be better off with the Eastern Bloc states if they existed as well...
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#40I'm sure he's very disappointed. That's a big loss for him.