"Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1 • Hacker News Board

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by r00fus » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 1:57 AM UTC

tracker1 wrote: post #76

r00fus wrote: post #37

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The problem isn't that it's boomers heading these companies. It's that they're 1%'s who have either lost or never had the pressures that their customers are feeling. Maybe Microsoft thought Sony would just follow their lead since there wasn't a DRM scheme that Sony didn't like or try (before).

True enough.. I haven't bought a Sony product since the CD rootkit fiasco... I may just get a PS4... though, kind of perterbed at the removal of "other os" option from PS3.

Why support either DRM lover? Why not go PC and/or Wii U or abstain?

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by eridius » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:06 AM UTC

teamonkey wrote: post #148

eridius wrote: post #20

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Right now, used games capture the low end of the market. If there are no used games, then there's nothing servicing the low end, and that's a lot of wasted money. If game prices come down a bit, you capture more of the low end, which makes up for the lost revenue on the high end. The trick is figuring out the price point that gets you the most revenue.

Used console games typically sell for $5 less than new games. They're not servicing the low end of the market.

In the first week, sure. But as time goes on, used game prices drop much faster than new game prices.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:07 AM UTC

redthrowaway wrote: post #141

Microsoft has always struck me as a company that makes some really cool technology, then tries to find a way to make it relevant to the rest of us. For them, it seems the consumer is an afterthought and the technology is key. Windows 8 was an impressive attempt to merge mobile and desktop OSes so that mobile users are no longer second-class citizens and have access to everything desktop users do. The problem? Mobile…

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Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by i386 » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:10 AM UTC

I wish pastebin had a mobile interface. It's almost impossible to read on the iPhone 5 screen.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by matiu » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:10 AM UTC

I think most of the whiner's are American's with a high sense of entitlement. Personally, I'm just gonna quietly switch to PS4.

I think MS's thinking is a bit ahead of its time, and possibly a bit too Americanized. USA and a lot of other countries have cheap, reliablish Internet. The onliny model will be OK for them.

But there are still a lot of places that have XBox's that have expensive + useless Internet. Like where I live.

I'm moving from XBox 360 to PS4 because, as it is on the 360, I get a "Can't connect to XBox live" message about once an hour. If I went to XBox4, I'm assuming it'd be more annoying.

I bought the computer/console and the software; I expect it to work for me, not to police me, not to try to advertise to me, just do what I paid for.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by redms3 » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:11 AM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #72

The real misstep here is that Microsoft is still selling physical media. Nobody (well, almost nobody) gets mad when they can't resell their iPhone games or mp3s or Kindle books; compare that to the outpouring of anger when a company puts limitations on used optical media games or CDs or books. Humans are wired to see a physical item (disks, etc.) and think mine .

I was a dev lead at xbox when they first implemented "Games on Demand" or direct purchase and digital download of full games. My team implemented the feature on xbox.com back in 2009 I think.

As I recall it, the main reason we didn't do a wholesale switch over to digital distribution was because that would have upset the retailers who sell games. We relied on these same retailers to sell our xbox consoles. We were afraid that if we took a way the game revenue they would stop selling xboxes. We thought it would be best to make the transition gradual. So we took the first step back in 2009. This appears to be another step.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by drivingmenuts » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:18 AM UTC

We'll still be paying the same for games - this just means more profit goes into the executives and the shareholders pockets.

We're getting boiled just like that poor old frog. Turn the water up slow enough and he'll never notice.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by geuis » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 2:22 AM UTC

For what its worth, the double punch Wednesdays was confirmed to me my a MS friend.

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Post by batgaijin » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 3:05 AM UTC

It's funny how his view is that M$ is somehow on the long tail of video games and that it's the consumers that are being misled.

Sony bought Gaikai, you dumb fucks. They are going to offer a subscription for unlimited video games streaming WHILE selling tradeable games because you lot were too busy in your fiefdoms jacking off. You dipshits couldn't even understand a fucking pincer business idea like that; all you know is embracing, extending and executing small dumb companies and have no fucking clue how to actually compete.

Re: "Microsoft engineer" on Xbox1

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Post by kaeawc » Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 3:05 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #115

nrivadeneira wrote: post #96

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Advertisements are not the reason they're in decline. People don't sign up for Netflix because it's ad-free, they sign-up for convenience.

People don't sign up for Netflix because it's ad-free, Speak for yourself, please.

Ditto