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People are up in arms about a free product from a company with an established track record of killing products, having nearly zero customer service and not caring about financially hurting businesses who use their tools (no-recourse account cancellations, etc.).
That's just too funny. What, you didn't know this could happen?
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I understand this completely. But moves like this is why you see Internet Explorer 6 still in the wild. Because C-levels can be confident that Microsoft will continue to provide baseline support, security patches, and forever. My boss didn't even get annoyed, he just said 'too funny' and reminded me of when he was telling me to just build on IE7 baseline. 6 Months in the Enterprise world is a barely time enough to sn…
Microsoft will continue to provide baseline support, security patches, and forever Actually they're going to stop providing IE6/7 support and patches in a little under a year.
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What were you paying for Chrome Frame? Sometimes, it makes sense to retire products. And if you're not making money on the product, then it can be expensive to keep supporting it. I think six months is still a reasonable amount of advanced notice. No matter what, a small minority will be unhappy. I think the real lesson here is: don't build something serious on top of a product you don't pay for and you don't have an…
I understand this completely. But moves like this is why you see Internet Explorer 6 still in the wild. Because C-levels can be confident that Microsoft will continue to provide baseline support, security patches, and forever. My boss didn't even get annoyed, he just said 'too funny' and reminded me of when he was telling me to just build on IE7 baseline. 6 Months in the Enterprise world is a barely time enough to sn…
Currently all those XP users can easily run Firefox or Chrome and are therefore not stuck to IE7, but I really wonder how long that will be possible. Will it be 1 or 2 years until Chrome won't run anymore on Windows XP? (Firefox has problems with the linker of older visual studio compilers already and any software compiled with a newer microsoft compiler will need the msvcrt update, unless you use http://kobyk.wordpr…
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Some organizations don't allow it by company policy, regardless of whether it can be installed.
I've still yet to wrap my mind around the Chrome frame from an IT perspective. Even with thin clients, you could install FireFox or Chrome on your XP VM, and it'd result in less CPU overhead. I'll admit, IT is not my specialty nor is mega corporate politics, but I'd would venture to guess the cost of IE6-8 in IT overhead would negate any cost of deployment of Chrome or FireFox ESR. Anyone care to enlighten me as to w…
Large organizations, particularly those which train non-IT workers to follow consistent workflows like to avoid any changes. Chrome Frame was great because it was a minimally disruptive opt-in for a better web; Chrome for Business requires you to switch to Chrome for everything and whitelist legacy apps/sites – that might happen if someone at the C level is really scared about security but it's way more risk and the shops in question are among the most risk averse.
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What were you paying for Chrome Frame? Sometimes, it makes sense to retire products. And if you're not making money on the product, then it can be expensive to keep supporting it. I think six months is still a reasonable amount of advanced notice. No matter what, a small minority will be unhappy. I think the real lesson here is: don't build something serious on top of a product you don't pay for and you don't have an…
The other lesson is: Use open source solutions. If a company drops support for something that's open source, you have the option to pay someone else (or DIY) to continue that support going forward.
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I think you just come from a different perspective than me, i work in the enterprise for fortune 500 companies. The mindset and the process is just different. If the horse and buggy works, and is cheap, and doesn't have high maintenance costs, in the enterprise will gladly let the horse and buggy technology go until paste the day when we are flying spaceships to and from work. I enjoy the witty snaps, but realistical…
... and then these big enterprises are surprised when they get outmaneuvered by a startup using technology which less than 10 years old.
Nor an insurance company.
Nor a bank.
Nor large agrobusiness.
The tech industry is not the only industry that exists in the world. There are many industries where software does not form the basis of competitive advantage. In those cases, IT is not the most efficient use of capital.
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Will Microsoft continue providing baseline support for IE6 indefinitely? I doubt it. The top Google hit for "ie6" is http://www.ie6countdown.com , which is Microsoft's own site for tracking and celebrating the death of IE6. I imagine that once those numbers get low enough around the world, they'll stop supporting it.
> Will Microsoft continue providing baseline support for IE6 indefinitely? I doubt it. Doesn't matter, they already have supported it for centuries in tech years.
Of course boys have grander creativity but men realize evident truths easier.
They close one product after another, to free all resources for something. But what?