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PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the case of DDG, that would be difficult. DDG uses SSL. If you make a mistake and type "duckduckgo.com" instead of " https://duckduckgo.com" , it will automatically redirect you to the secure page. Unfortunately, that redirect gives a man-in-the-middle and opportunity to hijack your connection, even with SSL; however, that's tricky enough that its hard to imagine anyone pulling it off without ever being noticed.

>Unfortunately, that redirect gives a man-in-the-middle and opportunity to hijack your connection, even with SSL As long as the SSL cert isn't compromised, I don't see how this is possible.

The initial request/redirect response is insecure. So a MITM can intercept the redirect response and replace it with his own content. That content could be, for example, a 200 response status and HTML pulled from the attacker's HTTPS connection to the target site.

So rather than being redirected to a secure connection, I happily communicate with the attacker instead.

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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I ceased using Google search except as a last resort when this story broke, and I had no idea what I had been missing out on with DDG: Excellent keyboard navigation . Also, DDG's results compared to a year ago are night-and-day. It seems to listen to my keywords better than Google did too, a growing annoyance I had. If you haven't, you really should try out DDG for a week.

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Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Anyone else wondering if DDG will come out with their version of email? Maybe something that uses end to end encryption (maybe working together with Mozilla Foundation)?

I would prefer if someone else did it. Not because I do not trust DDG, but because I don't like the idea of one company providing everything (or too much). Why step into the footsteps of the dinosaurs?

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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I have a private writing app and I can confirm that this NSA thing has been good for me too and I'm betting lots of services concerned with privacy. I saw a 5X increase in users in the past week and reviews in blogs are getting more numerous.

I wonder though if now all services regardless of their real focus will start marketing privacy as a feature and muddy the waters, making it hard for consumers to discern who is really about privacy and who just uses it as a marketing ploy.

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Why would anyone believe that DuckDuckGo isn't already penetrated?

Exactly, I think what we might be needing is a non-US (perhaps Iceland or NZ) based alternative. The moment, duckduckgo becomes relevant enough (i.e significant traffic) then is game over IMO.

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Anyone else wondering if DDG will come out with their version of email? Maybe something that uses end to end encryption (maybe working together with Mozilla Foundation)?

I would prefer if someone else did it. Not because I do not trust DDG, but because I don't like the idea of one company providing everything (or too much). Why step into the footsteps of the dinosaurs?

Fair enough.

>Why step into the footsteps of the dinosaurs?

I'd think adding E2EE to email would be like what pagerank did to the search engine. Why build from the ground up when you can build on the shoulders of the giants?

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They have access to IP+time, your search query, and > cookies for correlation to other requests. It's > valuable information Valuable for blackmail, but not really useful for anything else; the commercial value of information rapidly degrades over time. Knowing I want to buy a new fridge today is very valuable, knowing I wanted to buy one last month is nearly worthless. > IP+time is enough to get your personal iden…

I love targeted advertising because it is so blatantly obvious and hilariously over-optimistic. I search for a lot of random crap with more curiosity than intent to buy. I looked up the price for several windmills , the late 19th/early 20th century style, (~$1000, by the way). For weeks or months afterwards, I saw windmill ads on a sizable fraction of the websites I visited. To be fair, it's far more likely that I am…

It does well because the probability of you buying a windmill multiplied by profit per sale is still more valuable than something non targeted like tampons (some of the advertisers get the numbers wrong but not the ones at scale.)

Interestingly, from the CPMs I've seen re-targeted/re-marketed ads perform on par or below contextually targeted ads. No one even comes close to Google for contextually targeted ad inventory (unless you are operating in a narrow niche and you are selling inventory directly, but lots of time and money to even match them.)

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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I ceased using Google search except as a last resort when this story broke, and I had no idea what I had been missing out on with DDG: Excellent keyboard navigation . Also, DDG's results compared to a year ago are night-and-day. It seems to listen to my keywords better than Google did too, a growing annoyance I had. If you haven't, you really should try out DDG for a week.

And they are always there in your im client

http://ddg.gg

Re: PRISM fears give private search engine DuckDuckGo its best week ever

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post #75

An observation: Ghostery blocked 22 trackers on this article. Does it somehow make tracking my every move online okay if it's done for profit? EDIT: phrasing.

With all the tracking by advertisers it makes one wonder if the Feds have approached them for access to those databases.
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