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Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by adlpz » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:23 PM UTC

wcfields wrote: post #25

I had been using these to game my Dropbox account: 1. Configure the VM up the point of signing up / downloading the client. 2. Change the PC Name & spoof a new Mac Address in the VM. 3. Sign up under a referral code. 4. Rollback to the snapshot in step 1.

Well, that's not nice.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by vizzah » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:27 PM UTC

Do they expire? Previousy IE VMs from Microsoft were only valid for ~90 days or something and required re-downloading (and then re-configuring all settings which was pita).

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by trust-me » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:29 PM UTC

vizzah wrote: post #42

Do they expire? Previousy IE VMs from Microsoft were only valid for ~90 days or something and required re-downloading (and then re-configuring all settings which was pita).

And often MS people would forget to upload updated VM.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by trust-me » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:31 PM UTC

wcfields wrote: post #23

Tmmrn wrote: post #11

LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx LinuxVirtualBox.part2.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part3.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part4.rar LinuxVirtualBox.part5.rar Why? Why the proprietary rar format? I mean, is there any reason to actually use rar over even "only" xz nowadays or for big downloads, zpaq (lrzip is probably not mainstream enough I guess)? And 1000 megabyte parts? Why?

Looks like someone from Microsoft has some old warez scene habits.

Well there are two types of young nerds - those who use open source and those who use cracked commercial software. It's only natural that the first type doesn't usually end employed by MS.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by gavinlynch » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:32 PM UTC

JunkDNA wrote: post #8

sljd wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "forcing"? I'm running Windows XP on VirtualBox without any problems.

If you wanted to legally run multiple versions of IE without having to have multiple Windows licenses for every combination (e.g. IE8/XP, IE8/Win7, IE10 Win7, IE10 Win8, etc...) you had to use the MS-provided virtual machines. However, these were only ever made available as VirtualPC images. So there was no way to run them, even on Windows, without all sorts of machinations (some of which may have violated the ToS).

True. And although there is a process to convert VirtualPC images to work with other formats, which I did (on OSX), however it was a major pain in the ass. Frankly, I love the new model. MS deserves to be denigrated when they do bad, and they certainly have a mountain of web-karma to countermand, but they did good in this respect and deserve to be praised for it.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by bdcravens » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:33 PM UTC

fowlerje wrote: post #29

rednukleus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still can't run OS X on non-Apple hardware can you? I'd love it if they changed that.

Sure you can. They have 10.8 VMs for VMWare Workstation. I'd recommend at least 8gb of RAM for smoother access though.

For VMWare Fusion, not VMWare Workstation, I believe, as Workstation doesn't have an OSX version, and as others have said, their license doesn't allow for running a VM on non-Apple hardware.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by trust-me » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:33 PM UTC

xradionut wrote: post #31

blahpro wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although they come from Microsoft, I don't feel enormously comfortable doing this: chmod +x LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx; ./LinuxVirtualBox.part1.sfx

I was assuming the built-in NSA access was making people uncomfortable. ;)

Naah, only good people get to rise to the top of the US politics. They would never abuse your data.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by bdcravens » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:34 PM UTC

sljd wrote: post #6

JunkDNA wrote: post #3

For a long time I was critical of MS for forcing developers to use their VirtualPC VM's because it just wasn't realistic: people use VMWare and VirtualBox as well as Macs and Linux. It was always an example of MS's frequent "plays poorly with others" behavior. Kudos to them for making it right.

What do you mean by "forcing"? I'm running Windows XP on VirtualBox without any problems.

You can install Windows XP anywhere, but I think JunkDNA was referring specifically to the distributed VMs for testing IE, which in the past were always VHDs.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by trust-me » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:36 PM UTC

wcfields wrote: post #25

I had been using these to game my Dropbox account: 1. Configure the VM up the point of signing up / downloading the client. 2. Change the PC Name & spoof a new Mac Address in the VM. 3. Sign up under a referral code. 4. Rollback to the snapshot in step 1.

How about: 1. Use your technical skills to built something of value. 2. Use a small part of the inevitable monetary reward to pay Dropbox.

Re: Free Official MSIE VM's for Linux and Mac

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Post by fuzzywalrus » Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 9:36 PM UTC

trust-me wrote: post #43

vizzah wrote: post #42

Do they expire? Previousy IE VMs from Microsoft were only valid for ~90 days or something and required re-downloading (and then re-configuring all settings which was pita).

And often MS people would forget to upload updated VM.

The great irony is I ended up hacking legal VMs. At least they're better about it now.