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Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

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Microsoft Is Spread Too Thin. That's it. That is the reason most of their products are half-assed. They have database systems. Server, desktop, and tablet/phone operating systems. Web, desktop, mobile development environments, all in multiple languages. They have their IaaS and PaaS offerings. They have end user services like Skydrive and Outlook. Then there is everything Office. And games, both PC and Xbox. Also, Bi…

> This is probably an incredibly incomplete list. You've actually hit Microsoft's five business units. In order of revenue: Business Division (ie, Office): $24B Windows & Windows Live: $18.8B Server & Tools: $18.7B Entertainment & Devices: $9.5B Online Services: $3B. With the exception of Online Services, each of these business units alone is doing enough revenue to qualify for inclusion on the Fortune 500 list. Ente…

The speed with which one technological company can fall is amazing as history has shown time and time again. According to joel spolsky Excel 4 made lotus 1-2-3 obsolete virtually overnight and that was the beginning of the end for them.

The fact that MS is strong now means nothing in the long and even midterm.

The total share of world computing that Microsoft controls now is lower than in the 90s. They have trouble getting good products out except in Server and Azure divisions. They are bleeding developer loyalty and they are turning into Apple style control freaks without having the charm of Apple.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#62
If you don't want to depend on the arbitrary decisions of Microsoft anymore, the Linux ecosystem welcomes you and your developments :)

You won't find Visual Studio, but I think everybody agrees Linux is a fine dev environment. And if someone makes a controversial change, a fork almost always happens, which is simply impossible in the Microsoft world.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

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post #47

I thought the mindless Microsoft/Xbox bashing was Reddit's job. The XBox One will sell and it will sell well - it has loads of blockbuster titles and is pretty powerful, and I personally love the idea of integrating my Sky box with my XBox.

I don't think thats how it works, at least not at the moment. I'm pretty sure its designed specifically or cable, so only supports a limited subset of networks. Unless of course there is a branded adaptor for each network. Since we know the TV tuner is another separate purchase it may end up as another PlayTV, cool, slick, but not very useful and limited to freeview.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#64
IMO people are badly predicting the future of the Xbox One. They already have a huge market of players who will buy it no matter how hard the DRM are. And they had a big "pirating" problem before. This only means they can now focus on making the Xbox One safe from hacking and also something more than a console. They did it. Some people are unhappy but they will sell and they will make a lot of profit from it.

As for Windows 8. It's not a failure, they launched their tablet product, windows phones, they're in two markets they weren't before.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you are running OS X desktops, why bother with it?" Because you want to run applications that only run on Windows Server?

But a large chunk of the really compelling Windows Server applications are about management of Windows desktop.

The really compelling applications are at a business level - ERP, CRM, finance, engineering etc. - and might not come from Microsoft.

There is a huge world of specialised business applications out there that are ignored on HN (often for good reasons) that any large enterprise will have hundreds of - a lot of these run on Windows.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#66

Everyone on reddit seems to be up in arms about used game sales, as in the ability to trade in a box + disk. But really, this will likely be the last generation of consoles to support a physical disk. I imagine that by the end of this "round" of consoles 60%+ of game sales for these consoles will be digital downloads. What do use game sales look like in a digital marketplace? If you allow gamers to freely transfer li…

The problem with Microsoft's approach the way I see it is that they're offering no value-add for the inconvenience. Gamers are used to discs being transferrable but MS is making a bold choice to devalue them and treat them as tokens to be redeemed (despite the fact this already happens with online purchases of 360 games).

Since they're going with the requirement for 24hr checkins it would seem that going digital-only would have been an option. I daresay if they'd have done that there'd be less of a fuss.

w.r.t. the use of transfers to share copies, why is that a problem specifically? The same ``problem'' exists with on-disc media (for the current consoles at least).

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#67

Im probably going to lose what little karma I have for saying this, but the XBox One's licensing model is more attractive to me than the PS4's model. I'm getting all of my information from here: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license These are the points I find interesting: - Access your entire games library from any Xbox One ... while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games. From this, i can…

> - Share access to your games with everyone inside your home .. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

> On my console, anyone can play my games, whether I take the disc to a friend's house or not. This is hugely beneficial for me and my brothers who, until this point, have been sharing a single console.

That's hugely depressing. I have a DVD. I can lend it to anyone in my home to play. I have a book. I can lend it to anyone in my home to play. Why is it different for a game?

> Give your family access to your entire games library anytime ... Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One.

> The key word there for me is that people can play my games, once I've shared then, from any console. So I can be in another city to my friends, buy a game, and immediately say to them "This game is awesome, check it out in my shared library."

They use the word "family", so I wonder what they mean? I guess they mean "people in the same house", but I could be wrong.

> Ofcourse, there is the limitation on reselling games. But honestly, I have had an xbox 360 and ps3 for years, and I have never sold a game, and only bought one or two pre-owned games.

Well, that's great for you. Unfortunately, it sucks for other people.

Ann is not as wealthy as you. She loves buying new games, and knowing that she can sell games she doesn't like gives her power and confidence. She can risk $40 on a new game that she might not like.

Bob is not as wealthy as Ann. He buys most of his games second hand. None of that money goes to the game devs - just as when he buys a second hand car none of the money goes to the car manufacturer, or when he buys a second hand book none of the money goes to the publisher, or when he buys a second hand chair none of the money goes to the carpenter. Except, the money does go back, indirectly, through Ann. Being able to buy cheap games means that Bob can buy more accessories, or spend money on online play, or on Indie games.

$GAMESHOP sells new and second user games. They love Ann for buying new games. They love Bob for buying second hand games. They make a bit of money off each of them. Having more customers makes it easier for them to stay in business.

I dunno, maybe MS hates $GAMESHOP and only wants to sell games through an XBOXONE[1] web-tv-interface-app-store thing.

Perhaps I'm just too old for video games. I got depressed when Nintendo added region locking to 3DS.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

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post #7

He is exaggerating about the "big Windows 8 and Windows RT user interface failure". As a Windows user since version 3.1, I can say that Windows 8 is IMHO the best Windows version overall; they just made an arguably wrong decision to remove Start button from the Desktop mode. That will now be fixed in 8.1. I also happen to like the monochrome icons in the newest Visual Studio (where there are a lot of other improvemen…

No, start button is just the very beginning. Whoever thought a full-screen calculator app was going to be a good idea was an idiot.

Really? I use Windows 8 daily and have never seen the full screen calculator. When I open the calculator, it opens in Desktop mode and presents the same calculator as what I used in Windows 7.

Edit: Hrmmm... Looking at the screen shot in the other comment, can't you just dock the calculator to the side like other metro apps?

A quick Google brought this example - http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-dock-and-undock-apps-in-win...

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#69
Seems like Microsoft has repeatedly hit their developers (developers, developers) recently.

- They're beginning to lock down their platform

- They effectively killed the once hailed .NET for desktop development

- They're killing other popular technology, like XNA

It appears as if they're in the process of migrating away from their island of proprietary technology, adopting stuff that has become popular in the rest of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if they killed off DirectX in favour of OpenGL at this point.

And that'd be good, of course. But I'm wondering if alienating all those MS-only developers is a good idea.

Re: What is Microsoft smoking?

#70

Microsoft Is Spread Too Thin. That's it. That is the reason most of their products are half-assed. They have database systems. Server, desktop, and tablet/phone operating systems. Web, desktop, mobile development environments, all in multiple languages. They have their IaaS and PaaS offerings. They have end user services like Skydrive and Outlook. Then there is everything Office. And games, both PC and Xbox. Also, Bi…

> This is probably an incredibly incomplete list. You've actually hit Microsoft's five business units. In order of revenue: Business Division (ie, Office): $24B Windows & Windows Live: $18.8B Server & Tools: $18.7B Entertainment & Devices: $9.5B Online Services: $3B. With the exception of Online Services, each of these business units alone is doing enough revenue to qualify for inclusion on the Fortune 500 list. Ente…

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