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post #29

Mikulski keeps calling "identity theft" war. This is a crime, it is not an act of war!

They're talking about their battle against cyber-crime as war - which is a reasonable statement to make. It's just the same as when governments and new agencies talk about the "war on drugs" etc.

Exactly, that is what scares me!

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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Oh, this is awesome: Keith Alexander explaining how what we really should do is let the NSA have a database that stores absolutely everything, and then they promise only to search through it when it is "reasonable."

Here's something I've been thinking about, let me know your thoughts: I'm thinking of the nuclear bomb analog. Other people have nukes, so we need nukes, and we have to trust the government not to turn nukes against us. Is it possible this is a similar example...and what we really should be doing is having oversight on the analogous launch codes...etc?

Note: this is not saying what they did was legal.

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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FYI: interesting discussions happening at 45:00+ minutes. Talking about Snowden's education and training, phone tapping and investigation, various authorities, etc. Interesting that they keep asking Alexander about what he thinks he is allowed to do or is doing?!

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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post #35

This is like watching a super awkward scene in a movie or TV show that just won't end. The word "cyber" has been applied to every noun, and I've apparently been out of the loop on terms like "techno-boondoggle". This is just a little terrifying.

What about cybernouns? Do we have those yet?

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

#37

Oh, this is awesome: Keith Alexander explaining how what we really should do is let the NSA have a database that stores absolutely everything, and then they promise only to search through it when it is "reasonable."

Here's something I've been thinking about, let me know your thoughts: I'm thinking of the nuclear bomb analog. Other people have nukes, so we need nukes, and we have to trust the government not to turn nukes against us. Is it possible this is a similar example...and what we really should be doing is having oversight on the analogous launch codes...etc? Note: this is not saying what they did was legal.

Problem with that comparison is that while a government could make and store nukes without people knowing, it's hard to start exploding them without attracting attention. Accessing a database, on the other hand..

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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post #29

Mikulski keeps calling "identity theft" war. This is a crime, it is not an act of war!

They're talking about their battle against cyber-crime as war - which is a reasonable statement to make. It's just the same as when governments and new agencies talk about the "war on drugs" etc.

That kinda makes me want to see everyone that uses that rhetoric from the president downwards sent to base camp and then few tours of duty to Afghanistan to see exactly what war is.

Then they probably would use something softer.

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're talking about their battle against cyber-crime as war - which is a reasonable statement to make. It's just the same as when governments and new agencies talk about the "war on drugs" etc.

Exactly, that is what scares me!

What's what scares you? The fact that the term "war" is used informally?

Re: Live on C-SPAN now: NSA Chief Testifies at Cybersecurity Hearing

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post #35

This is like watching a super awkward scene in a movie or TV show that just won't end. The word "cyber" has been applied to every noun, and I've apparently been out of the loop on terms like "techno-boondoggle". This is just a little terrifying.

What about cybernouns? Do we have those yet?

#yeswedo
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