The expression "jumped the shark" has jumped the shark.
Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
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Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#32"the stupid URL bar that explodes into a list of sites whenever I type even a single letter there" Um, that feature is brilliant, it's the only way I can still handle my bookmarks. Haven't tried Google Chrome, so I don't know if they have come up with a better solution. Have they?
I love that bar, I don't even need to bookmark pages I visit a lot any more. All I need to do is type, say, "yc" and up pops this site. "tv" will show me tonight's TV listings. "gu" brings up the Guardian. If I wanted to come back to this story, "yc firefox" would most likely bring me here and to any other HN stories I'd read with Firefox in the title. And so on. I didn't really like it when it was first brought in (…
All I need to do is type, say, "yc"
Why is this good? I type the letter "n" and news.ycombinator comes up. (I'm on ff 2.0). If I type "yc" I get this:
http://ycombinator.com/newsnews.html
It's deterministic, being alphabetic, and superior in every way. I don't want the fricken address bar throwing dice on my input.
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#33Lots of handwaving, some ad hominem and plenty of condescension. I like Chrome's speed and stability. I really like the idea that if one tab crashes (beyond recovery), the rest will survive. But I still use Firefox and will go on doing so until Chrome gives me two things I need:
1) a set of plugins (add-ons, extensions, whatever) equivalent to the ones I use
2) a way to decide that yes, I want to have a title bar
The feature #2 might seem laughable to most, but it's important to me. What Chrome devs did there, I can only describe as "arrogance". It's okay to decide that the title bar, in your opinion, is a waste of "screen real-estate". It's perfectly natural to ship Chrome with the title bar removed by default. But it's arrogant not to offer an option to turn it back on. Some of us are actually using that "screen real-estate".
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#34I use (actually use) about 35 plug-ins, around 50 user styles, and a few Greasemonkey scripts. Until Chrome gets all those, no way I can use Chrome. I've customized my Firefox experience so much, most people can't even recognize it. No way I can do that on Chrome. And in Linux, I run Firefox totally in a ramdisk, so it's ridiculously fast: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120475
Your need for plugins, styles, and scripts are the exact reason why the author claims Firefox has jumped the shark. It definitely can't feel 'right' if you need to customize it so much.
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#35"the stupid URL bar that explodes into a list of sites whenever I type even a single letter there" Um, that feature is brilliant, it's the only way I can still handle my bookmarks. Haven't tried Google Chrome, so I don't know if they have come up with a better solution. Have they?
I believe the proper name for it is, in fact, the "awesome bar".
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#36"the stupid URL bar that explodes into a list of sites whenever I type even a single letter there" Um, that feature is brilliant, it's the only way I can still handle my bookmarks. Haven't tried Google Chrome, so I don't know if they have come up with a better solution. Have they?
I still can't get used to the "stupid" URL bar (I'd call it too smart for my liking). It's a pity it is a pervasive trend amongst modern browsers. I have a copy of Opera 9.27 that doesn't yet have it, it's a pity it cannot render more and more sites properly. Can I switch to the classic URL bar?
Actually the Opera 9.5 beta and Firefox 3 betas both started using a "Awesome Bar" type feature around the same time. Opera 9.27 was released over a year ago.
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#37I use (actually use) about 35 plug-ins, around 50 user styles, and a few Greasemonkey scripts. Until Chrome gets all those, no way I can use Chrome. I've customized my Firefox experience so much, most people can't even recognize it. No way I can do that on Chrome. And in Linux, I run Firefox totally in a ramdisk, so it's ridiculously fast: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1120475
Your need for plugins, styles, and scripts are the exact reason why the author claims Firefox has jumped the shark. It definitely can't feel 'right' if you need to customize it so much.
Agreed. I used to have a similar bloated Firefox setup and then switched to Chrome. I just couldn't go back to the Fox, even missing a few features like delicious integration, the feel of the url/search bar is too good.
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#38I like Chrome much better. The only thing that I use Firefox for is Firebug. Other than that, I try to avoid most of the plugins Firefox is famous for anyway. I find that they just make it slower. Maybe 3.5 will change that though.
> Maybe 3.5 will change that though.
Doubtful. The new JS JIT is only turned on for web content, so extensions don't benefit at all.
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#39I just know I never used Firefox again after Safari 4 Beta...
+1 - At first I was kinda angry because Safari 4 is essentially Google Chrome by apple (at least in terms of user interface). But then I was happy because there isn't a Google Chrome for the Mac.
"Safari 4 is essentially Google Chrome by Apple."
Google Chrome is essentially Webkit by Google.
Webkit is essentially KHTML by Apple.
Why be angry when it's all so circular?
Re: Why Firefox Has Jumped the Shark
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your need for plugins, styles, and scripts are the exact reason why the author claims Firefox has jumped the shark. It definitely can't feel 'right' if you need to customize it so much.
Agreed. I used to have a similar bloated Firefox setup and then switched to Chrome. I just couldn't go back to the Fox, even missing a few features like delicious integration, the feel of the url/search bar is too good.
Same here. I even went to the trouble of building a bookmarklet to handle the only Firefox plugin that I missed (rikaichan - http://www.tokyomuslim.com/2009/04/japanese-english-bookmark...)