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Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by simias »

mixedbit wrote: post #7
jval wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a start, I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to add these features in future for popular languages if there is demand for it. It's pretty exciting IMHO.

Executing code would actually be very difficult. They would need to configure an isolated VM for each run (for security) and somehow figure out a generic way to install/configure dependencies.

For many languages (especially interpreted ones) you could just use a dumbed down interpreter with crippled libraries.

It's fairly common actually, like the PHPs running in shared environements.

Many programming language's websites let you try running some code from the browser, without having to install anything as well, see for instance http://dlang.org/ (amongst many others).

I'm not sure it would be very useful (to me at least, but I mostly write C) but it's definitely not rocket science.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by columbo »

defuzz wrote: post #4

I fail to understand why I shouldn't use my favorite editor, I'd call it a non-feature (useless, not available from the competion because it is useless).

I don't believe we'll ever see developers tossing out their IDEs to edit things through the web, but this as an API this is a huge open ended solution towards automated testing.

You are doing some clojure work, you commit it, the unit tests run and fail. Clojure can tell you exactly what function failed with what data and it could commit a file for you to execute in your repl.

Using the ability to edit/create files through a webservice means the CI server running the Clojure tests could dynamically add or edit files showing the real failure over some pretty-print error message. You could check into the branch and open up user_104_error.clj and see the data that caused the problem.

When you solve the problem the CI server could automatically delete these files from the git repository, or maybe keep them around just to keep testing them.

Automated code modification into the version control system really could be interesting new ground in continuous integration and testing.

That and just last week I committed a file with the javascript url hardcoded to http://localhost/sit/js/api.js and wanted to change that back before anyone noticed.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by blktiger »

mixedbit wrote: post #3

I don't find such feature very useful. Without a way to execute code or run tests it seems too easy to break something.

One major reason for this feature is that it's used to edit the wikis. Wikis are git projects in bitbucket so you can check them out and edit them locally, or edit them in bitbucket. For the less technical users collaborating on a project, I'd say that this feature is a big win.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by estebank »

inthewind wrote: post #8
rschmitty wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is nice at least for editing .md files to update readme/instructions/etc. Sometimes I want to do a quick edit without having to cd directory, make sure I'm up to date, edit file, add/commit/push just for a md file in the repo

If using the web interface feels better for something like that, it shows just how bad the alternative is. It's not nice when something like source control feels like it gets in the way, but it could be mitigated by having better/easier client tools. I totally get why you'd want to do that.

So you are saying git gets in the way? I'm curious about why that is the case.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by kmfrk »

rschmitty wrote: post #6
mixedbit wrote: post #3

I don't find such feature very useful. Without a way to execute code or run tests it seems too easy to break something.

It is nice at least for editing .md files to update readme/instructions/etc. Sometimes I want to do a quick edit without having to cd directory, make sure I'm up to date, edit file, add/commit/push just for a md file in the repo

Exactly.

It's only a useless feature, if you think people who don't think a service by BitBucket will ever be used by people unfamiliar with git and programming.

I for one am very pleased with the opportunity for crowd-sourcing fixes and improvements to open-source websites and projects - especially for people whose interest in them is not grounded in the programming aspect.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by notatoad »

mixedbit wrote: post #3

I don't find such feature very useful. Without a way to execute code or run tests it seems too easy to break something.

bitbucket can ping a web hook on every commit. set up a hook that pulls the code to your test server and runs your test suite.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by inthewind »

estebank wrote: post #24
inthewind wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If using the web interface feels better for something like that, it shows just how bad the alternative is. It's not nice when something like source control feels like it gets in the way, but it could be mitigated by having better/easier client tools. I totally get why you'd want to do that.

So you are saying git gets in the way? I'm curious about why that is the case.

I didn't know if they used git or hg, and I wasn't necessarily having a go at either. The poster obviously thought that there was less friction to an online edit, so you have to ask yourself why that is?

Perhaps they don't like fiddling about on the command line, their IDE is too klunky, file managment is a pain, their version control interface is convulted, or they are not sitting at their computer with their codebase - who knows!

Either way they appear to find it easier that way.

Re: Edit your code in the cloud with bitbucket

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Post by Oompa »

defuzz wrote: post #16
mcrittenden wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that I've used GitHub's online editor a few times in situations where I see a quick typo I need to fix or want to make a one line change without the hassle of opening up the right directory, pulling the latest code, opening up an editor, etc etc.

Sorry to hear that your IDE totally sucks - scnr. It just depends on how you approach it, since I prefer to work local and upstream revisions with change notes, the main reason for revision control. Given the featureset of github, it makes somehow sense, it just contradicts revision control to work directly in the repository.

How does it contradict revision control? You can make a change and add a commit message all in 1 fell swoop. Then the next time you `git pull` that commit will be pulled down, just like any other.

As others have said, it's amazingly useful for quick and small changes. I don't see how that means someone's IDE sucks. I work on many projects and don't have all of them open in my IDE with the latest code always on my machine. This totally beats opening that project, running a `git pull` (which may take a while on an active project which I haven't visited in a bit), making the change, then committing and pushing.

On top of this, it's useful for non-technical people using these tools. Not everyone can move around through multiple repositories and pull down updates as easily as you or I. However, now they can easily help keep documentation up to date without leaving their browser.

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