Suggestion: Please let me know there are no servers available without requiring me to type in the incredibly frustrating recaptcha.
Instant Server - Click the button to get a virtual private server
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#62One big question I don't see answered- why are they providing this service?
Because you can pay to get longer sessions?
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#63Suggestion: Please let me know there are no servers available without requiring me to type in the incredibly frustrating recaptcha.
They're reselling EC2; how can there be no servers available? Maybe they've bought a some reserved instances to get the $0.012 cents an hour cost and won't scale beyond those?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably because SysAdmins are fervent about customization. If a simple tool pops up like this, the demands for complex features overwhelms the product and brings it all the way back to the complex nightmare it's always been. Developers are more accepting of "Sane Defaults" as Rails has proven, but not enough hosting providers are interested in selling to developers. I have a feeling this will change sooner rather th…
Probably because SysAdmins are fervent about security/maintainability/reliability. Fixed that for you. Too often all developers care about is "Ship. Ship. Ship". Get a pager and come join our world for a bit. You'll understand what its like to run a real-world, mission critical app.
You break my system, you're in deep shit sunny Jim.
Re: Instant Server - Click the button to get a virtual private server
#65This is brilliant. I'm flabbergasted why every single virtual server I've ever tried has had some gotcha that made it agonizing. Why is it so hard to have one-click templates that give you a server that can run 90% of what a user needs, say apache/php/ruby/node/mysql/postgresql/ssh with cpanel (or equivalent), already installed and set up "the right way" so you can easily add domains? I know the reasons why this hasn…
well, the thing is? yes, hardware costs are falling (and sysadmin costs are rising) to the point where it's actually cheaper for me to give you a VPS than to give you a shared hosting account.
Problem is... that's because I'm depending on you to do the sysadmin work. That's my problem with things like Cpanel and webmin, well, and pre-installed services, too. they give folks a false sense of control. I mean, with control panels, I say they work 95% of the time. The problem is that then you expect it to work all the time; you depend on it. so 5% of the time? they are kinda fucked. And if you want to take that risk, that's fine, sometimes that's rational. but I don't want to be the guy who has to clean up that 5% of the time... not for $10 a month or whatever you are paying, that's for sure.
That's why I don't like the idea of pre-installed applications in an image... As a service provider? I don't want to set the expectation that I'm going to support apache/php/ruby/node/mysql/postgresql. and pre-installing it does set the expectation, for a lot of people, that you will support it when it breaks six months from now.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
give you a server that can run 90% of what a user needs Are you saying that you just keep adding things to the server until you've covered that mythical user? That sounds like an absolute disaster from a security, maintenance, and resource usage perspective. I don't see what problem this solves. Start an EC2 instance (takes seconds), configure it as you want it (which to me includes a hardened, specific set of softwa…
>That sounds like an absolute disaster from a security, maintenance, and resource usage perspective. Installed and available are a huge sight different from running and exploitable, though. I can have a completely unpatched Apache from 5 years ago, it's invulnerable to foes up to and including the NSA unless the app is running and listening on a port :) Would be trickier, but not impossible for more system-level apps…
Re: Instant Server - Click the button to get a virtual private server
#69This is brilliant. I'm flabbergasted why every single virtual server I've ever tried has had some gotcha that made it agonizing. Why is it so hard to have one-click templates that give you a server that can run 90% of what a user needs, say apache/php/ruby/node/mysql/postgresql/ssh with cpanel (or equivalent), already installed and set up "the right way" so you can easily add domains? I know the reasons why this hasn…