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Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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>Assertions in the press that our compliance with these requests gives the U.S. government unfettered access to our users’ data are simply untrue. However, government nondisclosure obligations regarding the number of FISA national security requests that Google receives, as well as the number of accounts covered by those requests, fuel that speculation.

Sounds suspiciously like they are going to ruin everyone's nerd rage.

Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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Aggregate number of requests is one thing, but perhaps some indication of how much content is provided with the average request would be required to really indicate what is going on here?

An API may serve millions of requests per day and return single-integer responses, or it might serve one batch query per day and provide a nested document with many sub-sections.

Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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This is the kind of response I was expecting from tech companies. The mistrust of the government has extended to this industry and we can't simply rest on a simple denial of the accusations. Many people now believe that companies like Google send a complete copy of their entire customer records to the NSA. That is a dangerous belief and like discussed on other threads here, it could really damage the long term viability of the tech industry. This is at least a start to try to change public opinion.

Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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I'm only upvoting this not because I have much loyalty or trust left for Google, but because I want many other companies to follow their lead and flood the Administration with such requests.

I still feel this does very little, though. They need to be asking them for much more. They need to ask them to end the spying. Until then I'm still hoping Google, Microsoft, Facebook and others will suffer greatly for this abroad, and lose a ton of business and customers, both small and major.

Maybe then they'll start doing some real lobbying to the government to end the madness, and maybe the government will stop thinking all the spying is worth breaking all international relationships and hurting the US economy in the process.

Until that happens, if Google cares that much about encryption and their users' privacy, they should show me they are willing to implement OTR, ZRTP and PGP in their services. The same goes for Microsoft and Facebook. Otherwise, this press release means nothing except for showing that "they are doing something".

Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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post #5

Aggregate number of requests is one thing, but perhaps some indication of how much content is provided with the average request would be required to really indicate what is going on here? An API may serve millions of requests per day and return single-integer responses, or it might serve one batch query per day and provide a nested document with many sub-sections.

From the article: "We therefore ask you to help make it possible for Google to publish in our Transparency Report aggregate numbers of national security requests, including FISA disclosures—in terms of both the number we receive and their scope"

Re: Asking the U.S. to allow Google to publish more national security request data

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post #5

Aggregate number of requests is one thing, but perhaps some indication of how much content is provided with the average request would be required to really indicate what is going on here? An API may serve millions of requests per day and return single-integer responses, or it might serve one batch query per day and provide a nested document with many sub-sections.

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