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Wolfram On Hunting For Our Universe

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Re: Wolfram On Hunting For Our Universe

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The book has quite a few citations: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&cites=31...

It also had a quite a large marketing campaign behind it. Last I checked most objective scientific writing didn't come with a hype machine attached.

Citations seem a far more reliable positive indicator of quality than hype is a negative one.

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I read NKS. Good book! Especially for math, physics, and programming geeks.

There has been a lot of speculation that the universe is a simulation. If Wolfram manages to ascertain the rules and network that "runs" the universe, then the question becomes whether a universe is a simulation, or just acts like one. Is there a difference between something that has only computational rules and structure and a computer program?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The book has quite a few citations: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&cites=31...

It also had a quite a large marketing campaign behind it. Last I checked most objective scientific writing didn't come with a hype machine attached.

wow that is incredibly naive. You think people in academia don't actively try to promote and position their work? Let alone the book and journal publishers, and conference organizers that have an obvious interest in all this.

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You might find this review of Wolfram's book interesting: http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/nks.pdf

When the book first came out, I remember there was an air of skepticism surrounding some of its concepts. Has the view towards the book by the science community changed much in the years since? I'm not a physicist, but have always been interested in Wolfram's work out of curiosity from a comp sci perspective.

Some ideas have already become commonplace, others less so. Simple programs as 'language primitive' for modeling was criticised by many, but is now becoming popular, particularly in biology (see for example http://fontana.med.harvard.edu/www/Documents/WF/Papers/signa...) General ideas like computational irreduciblity and instrinsic randomness are finding increasingly direct evidence in the physical world (http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/fruit-flies-have-free-will-13...) In terms of exploring the raw computational universe, lots of people in architecture and generative design are doing related things now. Unforunately most people are unaware of the fundamental ideas that underly all of these threads.

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Wow, he's turning into a crackpot: long, rambling articles with no introduction or conclusions that have no math or results to speak of, furtive mentions of how the rest of the physics community can't grasp how brilliant and far-out his remarkable work is (which could be because he doesn't publish, doesn't collaborate, doesn't go to conferences, and basically doesn't actually participate in the research community).

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So if our universe is essentially computational, what are the implications of Godel's incompleteness theorem? Doesn't this mean there must be an infinite number of axioms our universe is generated from?

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So if our universe is essentially computational, what are the implications of Godel's incompleteness theorem? Doesn't this mean there must be an infinite number of axioms our universe is generated from?

Maybe, but maybe it just means our universe is full of real contradictions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also had a quite a large marketing campaign behind it. Last I checked most objective scientific writing didn't come with a hype machine attached.

wow that is incredibly naive. You think people in academia don't actively try to promote and position their work? Let alone the book and journal publishers, and conference organizers that have an obvious interest in all this.

Case in point: you're kovasb@wolfram.com, I'm not an academic.

Wolfram has used his business to unduly promote his research. There is a huge difference between him and a professor making the rounds.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

wow that is incredibly naive. You think people in academia don't actively try to promote and position their work? Let alone the book and journal publishers, and conference organizers that have an obvious interest in all this.

Case in point: you're kovasb@wolfram.com, I'm not an academic. Wolfram has used his business to unduly promote his research. There is a huge difference between him and a professor making the rounds.

What exactly is 'unduly' about it? Going on a book tour? Putting up a website?

That his research was funded through success in the market rather than government subsidies doesn't imply any 'unduliness' to me, but attitudes may vary.

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Wow, he's turning into a crackpot: long, rambling articles with no introduction or conclusions that have no math or results to speak of, furtive mentions of how the rest of the physics community can't grasp how brilliant and far-out his remarkable work is (which could be because he doesn't publish, doesn't collaborate, doesn't go to conferences, and basically doesn't actually participate in the research community).

John Baez has developed an index for quantitatively judging revolutionary discoveries in physics: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

Doesn't look like Wolfram scores very high on Baez's index, although Wolfram does get the 50 point item.

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