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Re: Mac Pro

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Post by beedogs »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #437
comex wrote: post #424

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> PCIe 4.0 x4 would be ~8 GB/s That's what I said, 64 Gbps. :)

I feel like Apple is betting the farm on Thunderbolt being the future, and I don't see that future materializing. How many Thunderbolt peripherals have y'all even seen in real life that weren't the Apple external monitor or a mini displayport display adapter? I feel like this is even less prevalent than Firewire was back in the 1394 glory days (it was/still is an excellent bus for running audio, due in no small part…

They're not "betting the farm" on it: they're locked into Thunderbolt because Intel sold them an end-to-end platform, from CPU to chipset to everything in between. That "everything in between" includes Thunderbolt; it's the reason you haven't seen the latest USB on a Mac in forever. Even in spite of a dearth of options, Thunderbolt was the only way to go on a Mac because Intel said so.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by panacea »

paul_f wrote: post #371
glenra wrote: post #70

"Okay, we COULD just label the ports with regular high color contrast paint. Say, white paint on a black background or black paint on a white background. But that would be TOO EASY and the panel would then really 'pop' against our otherwise monolithic clean design. Which would be distracting." "But during actual use the ports are going to be on the BACK of the device (so you won't see it) and will have random stuff p…

Didn't Apple make the Flashlight feature a core iOS7 thingie? So, problem solved?

Accessible with a swipe from the lock screen.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by panacea »

rednukleus wrote: post #500
brusch wrote: post #429

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sorry if I am barking up the wrong tree.. but do you think it will be beautiful with all the breakout cables ? For me this whole thing looks like a blast from the past - my trusty C64 with everything outside the box (and there were some articles in the 64er magazine [german magazine] which showed how to build everything into a single case for the neat, "integrated" look)

I think for many people it will be a beautiful black cylinder on a cluttered desktop. For people who need to use expansions this will take up a significantly larger footprint than a machine that allows for internal expansion. For those that put the machine under their desk it will just be a mess of cables and things to kick over.

Third parties are going to have a field day designing accessories to this that will do away with the clutter. A six pronged lightning plug that splits into a meta-rack monolithic black box. Done.

The whining about this product is expected but so misguided.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by annnnd »

65a wrote: post #348
ScottBurson wrote: post #331

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I'm fairly sure I've seen people run OS X as a vmWare guest on either Windows or Linux.

It's entirely possible on VirtualBox, but it requires you to have a similar processor to an existing Mac, and some additional wizardry. I can verify it works for some virtualization software through at least Snow Leopard...not sure about Lion and beyond (but probably).

I love VirtualBox and I think it beats VMWare and others in UX department anytime. That said, for running Mac (Hackintosh) I would STRONGLY recommend VMWare. On VirtualBox I have tried 3 (!) different images and they were all slow, while the one I am running on VMWare works properly. And I mean properly.

I never had these kind of problems with Linux and Windows guests on VirtualBox though, so I'm not sure what the problem is - but it is real.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by annnnd »

rsync wrote: post #384
snuze wrote: post #351

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Yup, I've run OSX as a vmWare guest on Windows. It's possible and it works.

OK, but... - how much initial wizardry is required - how often does it need to be updated, or tended to ... is it like a hackintosh where you need to muck around with it every month or so because something "breaks" ?

Depends on how you do it. You can download an existing VMWare image (don't use VirtualBox for this - the guest will be slow, not sure why) and run it in minutes. Just be sure NOT to allow it any access to network, unless you are willing to be a part of some botnet. It's probably not legal even if you have the original CD.

Or you can install from your own ISO image... havent't tried it myself. But it's still against Apple EULA which states their software can only be used on their own HW.

While we are at it, how does Apple pull something like this off? Isn't there some anti-monopoly law that should prohibit using such EULAs?

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by csmatt »

btown wrote: post #502
fourstar wrote: post #397

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Posting minified JS is pretty useless. Open up Chrome inspector tools and use pretty print to actually read it: http://i.imgur.com/PHUaDSU.png

Wow, I've done entire reverse-engineering projects (namely re-skinning Angry Birds Chrome, for one) squinting at minified JS and never knew that that was what that { } button did! Thanks!

There are so many tools for unminifying JS, why would you squint at it in the browser?

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by gren »

btown wrote: post #231

Copywriting and product-debate aside, that's some pretty impressive frontend presentation. From what I can tell from the minified JS, they're using Require.JS for code organization, their own jQuery-like utility toolkit they call Apple Core, fully pre-rendered text everywhere, and javascript that plays and pauses two copies of the HTML5 video, one backwards and one forwards, shuffling their opacities for seamless tra…

If you are interested by the Bezier Curve easing, it uses a micro JS lib I wrote: http://greweb.me/2012/02/bezier-curve-based-easing-functions...

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by goblin89 »

l33tbro wrote: post #357
toufka wrote: post #216

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Classically, White has been consumer grade and black has been the professional grade in Apple design. See iPhoto vs Aperture, or iMovie vs Final Cut Pro. The Macbooks were all white, while the pros were (admittedly not black, but) metallic. I don't think it is that much of a change from what they've already projected out there.

This rule was left behind some time ago. Eg, Macbooks are also silver - even the Air. Obviously Iphones are both black and white, regardless of features. But who knows, maybe the new tower is a throwback to the old days?

Black seems to still remain Apple's ‘pro’ signature. Note that MBPs (and, interestingly, iMacs) have black framing around their screens.

Re: Mac Pro

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Post by Livven »

btown wrote: post #231

Copywriting and product-debate aside, that's some pretty impressive frontend presentation. From what I can tell from the minified JS, they're using Require.JS for code organization, their own jQuery-like utility toolkit they call Apple Core, fully pre-rendered text everywhere, and javascript that plays and pauses two copies of the HTML5 video, one backwards and one forwards, shuffling their opacities for seamless tra…

The site is really cool but to me feels too much like a fancy Flash page of old, just made with HTML. It's simply not as effective at presenting information as a traditional, scrollable webpage, for instance you can't use your browser's in-page search to look for keywords.

Also it doesn't really work in the mobile browsers I've tried (works very poorly on iOS, falls back to a normal page on Android, doesn't show anything at all on Windows Phone).

A normal webpage plus a cool demo video, while certainly not as creative/innovative as this, would probably be more useful.

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