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Rand Paul: Big Brother Really Is Watching Us

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Re: Rand Paul: Big Brother Really Is Watching Us

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"... If someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison."

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/05/31/232182/rand-pau...

Re: Rand Paul: Big Brother Really Is Watching Us

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Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

Progressive California did a great job with its two PIPA-cosponsoring Senators. I don't know how the software industry gets rolled so badly in state politics.

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post #4

Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

would it be better if he were a libertarian that hated Ayn Rand? (there are quite a few)

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post #4

Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

would it be better if he were a libertarian that hated Ayn Rand? (there are quite a few)

It's only fair considering Ayn Rand hated libertarians.

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post #4

Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

would it be better if he were a libertarian that hated Ayn Rand? (there are quite a few)

The general trend of Rand-bashing is annoying--not because there aren't many, many valid criticisms, but because those criticisms are seldom if ever used.

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As a progressive, I have conflicts with some of Rand Paul (and his father Ron) policies and positions. However, you have to admit they're beginning to sound like profits. Like it or not, they adhere to a fairly strict view of the constitution and that's admirable in the current poll-based world of politics. That said, Paul (and father) were never good communicators. Both vocally and even prosaically. I'm surprised he…

> However, you have to admit they're beginning to sound like profits.[sic] Here's a video I came across the other day of Ron Paul in 1984: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAWmKpBeEz0

little observed fact - he's criticizing Ronald Reagan directly.

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Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

Out of curiosity, what about the political records or statements of Obama and Feinstein made you trust them with civil liberties and privacy?

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post #4

Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

Progressive California did a great job with its two PIPA-cosponsoring Senators. I don't know how the software industry gets rolled so badly in state politics.

'cause we're too busy putting money and effort into making new things, while Hollywood (in the same state, notice, and thus sharing the same senators) is putting money and effort into attempting to stretch their dying business models through force of arms when need be.

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As a progressive, I have conflicts with some of Rand Paul (and his father Ron) policies and positions. However, you have to admit they're beginning to sound like profits. Like it or not, they adhere to a fairly strict view of the constitution and that's admirable in the current poll-based world of politics. That said, Paul (and father) were never good communicators. Both vocally and even prosaically. I'm surprised he…

Actually I liked this: "We fought a revolution over issues like generalized warrants, where soldiers would go from house to house, searching anything they liked."

The traditional narrative that youngsters in the US are taught is that the revolution was fought over taxes, but if you closely read the declaration of independence, that's not really the bulk of the argument. Historically speaking, it was violations of personal freedoms and the "home is a man's castle" principles that rankled the colonists the most.

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post #4

Congratulations Obama, Feinstein. You've got me throwing in with Rand Paul. Though I could trust you with our civil liberties and privacy, but now I have to get behind the Ayn Rand loving libertarian on this. So be it; policy over party.

I am glad to hear people start to admit that policy is more important then party. I believe that is a key step in us moving forward as we need to agree on shared principles that are universal and have a means to insure our elected officials follow through on them.

I sometimes imagine what the US political system would look if all elected positions were "nonpartisan". What if voters had to listen to what politicians were actually saying without the blinders of "Red Team" or "Blue Team"?
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