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Re: Mac Pro

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This concept reminds me of the old Silicon Graphics workstations. Some 15 years ago they were something I would dream of having on my desk. SGI was the symbol of performance and graphics and the computers looked very different from everything else.

Maybe this is also a tribute to Steve Jobs and NeXT. Think Different.

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I love this new device. I suspect I will buy one. But it doesn't solve my "need a new mac pro" problem. Right now my 2009 octo mac pro, with six displays attached, plays three roles: - it is my high end desktop workstation, with three primary high resolution (2560x1600) displays. - it is my HTPC, with one of the six monitors strung into another room entirely. - it is my office NAS, with four internal 3TB disks So, th…

Or you could buy a HP Z820 with liquid cooling, dual xeon processor, a fusion io card, three workstation gpus, and 12 sata drives :)

Thanks for that tip. I might just do that.

Perhaps reload my mac pro with snow leopard one last time, get another year or so out of it, and then "switch" to linux on an old school workstation like this.

Hate to abandon all of my mac VMs, though. I don't think a non-mac vmware host can run mac VM guests... without a lot of mucking around, that is...

Re: Mac Pro

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>Apple aren't offering ANY of that. I think Apple's philosophy here is to push all the expansion to external devices. The new Mac Pro has 6 thunderbolt 2 ports on it. I'd assume you could probably connect some extremely large and fast storage enclosures with that kind of bandwidth. A regular workstation will always be limited by the space available inside of it. Not with this.

That's absolutely no good for a lot of workstation deployments. Ours are locked into desks so they don't get nicked due to the high value nature of the work that is done on them. Try locking a new Mac Pro, 20 dangling Thunderbolt devices and an iSCSI array into a desk. You're going to end up with this as well: http://i.imgur.com/4dmz6Q3.jpg

Why not use fiber-attached storage and forget having all the drives on your desk? Lock them in a room.

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Ugly as shit. Completely useless for expansion. People will defend its ugliness and lack of expandability.

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Not liking the design...

It looks like they were peer pressured to make something bland, and now iOS looks too much apart from Mac OS. Throws away all learnability.

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Copywriting and product-debate aside, that's some pretty impressive frontend presentation. From what I can tell from the minified JS, they're using Require.JS for code organization, their own jQuery-like utility toolkit they call Apple Core, fully pre-rendered text everywhere, and javascript that plays and pauses two copies of the HTML5 video, one backwards and one forwards, shuffling their opacities for seamless tra…

I was surprised how bad it works in landscape orientation on their own ipad devices.. Alignment is wrong, scrolling is not smooth.. Overall, just bad. I could understand if I was browsing from an android platform..

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This page is a fantastic example of great development skills used in a way that is utterly infuriating to use. I don't want it to animate when I use my scroll wheel. I want the page to scroll. Off topic, but were this and the Air the only product announced? If so, I'm disappointed- I was hoping to pick up an updated Macbook Retina 13". Oh well.

Additionally, an updated AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule were announced.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/mac_accessori...

Re: Mac Pro

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But, coupled with zero internal expansion, no spinning disk bays, and a small number of RAM slots. I can't really tell to whom the product is targeted, honestly. If I were buying a Mac Pro for work, I'd want the expand ability. If I were a consumer buying a desktop, I'd get an iMac or mini.

Indeed, I've been using the same Mac Pro since 2008. I bought an ATI Radeon 6970 around a year or so ago and extended its life that much more. For most of my computer's life, its had a PCIe eSATA card. I can't say I'm too excited about a computer that's relegated to an much more expensive Mac Mini.

The idea here is any video card you might want you can just plug in to a Thunderbolt 2 port.

Six of those, which can be chained, is way better than having four internal slots.

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nah, dyson fans have used similar bases for years. I kid, I kid. Honestly though I do not care for an integrated "pro" machine. This is form over function. Fail a component and its off to the shop. Combined with, if I want to upgrade them I need to replace the unit. If they are going to integrate everything then they need to drop the price. Integration implies lower costs as having all the support needed to drive use…

This is form over function. Exactly why I'm not taking it seriously. What does form do for a power desktop? Nothing. I put my desktop under my desk. I can't see it. I have to stoop to reach the power button. I'm not going to say there's absolutely no use for form in any desktop, but IMO it's practically the number one least important feature of a power desktop/workhorse.

The new design might bring some improvement on cooling a lot of powerful hardware stashed inside a small space while keeping the noise level to a minimum.

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Curiously, my first association was "jet engine", was amused to learn that to many it's a trash can. Am I the only one whose breath was taken away by this new design? Power desktop seriously revisited for the first time since the 80's, anyone?

I agree. Apple has used the geometry of the device to assist more with cooling, and shares the heat sink among components, and uses one large slow fan. This kind of thing really pushes my buttons. It's 10" high, which is unexpectedly compact. It seems like the designers have chosen a shape to maximize use of space. I'm sure it isn't the only way to go but it's a wonderful next step. Again Apple has shown us what we w…

It's 10" high, which is unexpectedly compact.

But at what cost? Everyone likes to bash big box PCs but the fact is that every single component of one can be swapped out for another. Something tells me that won't be the case for the Mac Pro, and when all it's going to do is sit under my desk, I can afford to have it be a little less compact.

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