In terms of the supported Web Platform APIs, is this new Safari release any different from the recent WebKit snapshots? (http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1)
Also, is WebKit2 framework still private on OSX 10.9?
Apple Updates Safari
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#42I actually downgraded back to v5 because of the terrible changes they made to Web Inspector in v6, so I'm pretty annoyed that they didn't even mention it when introducing the new version -- at a developers' conference, no less!
Safari 6.x is jam packed with new web inspector capabilities. What are you talking about?
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#43I actually downgraded back to v5 because of the terrible changes they made to Web Inspector in v6, so I'm pretty annoyed that they didn't even mention it when introducing the new version -- at a developers' conference, no less!
Safari 6.x is jam packed with new web inspector capabilities. What are you talking about?
It's more capable, unfortunately the interface is rather inscrutable. It's a bunch of little tiny icons with no context you have to guess at.
When I have a lot of work to do debugging something, I switch over to Chrome which still has the old style layout, because I find it much easier to use.
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Safari 6.x is jam packed with new web inspector capabilities. What are you talking about?
It's more capable, unfortunately the interface is rather inscrutable. It's a bunch of little tiny icons with no context you have to guess at. When I have a lot of work to do debugging something, I switch over to Chrome which still has the old style layout, because I find it much easier to use.
yeah the UI is much different. I read somewhere apple is trying to keep the UI consistent among XCode debugger and Safari debugger. Notice, they have almost the same UI design.
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#45The news cycle rolls on. Let's see how challenger WWDC fares against defender PRISM.
PRISM will be a top story again when something new of substance happens. Are they supposed to be reporting 'nothing changed in PRISM scandal' as a top story?
I think this is precisely why the original reporter made it clear that there was new information that has yet to be revealed.
If they blow their news all at once, they won't get a sustained reaction as they would by releasing snippits every day.
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#46Can anyone explain this? http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/scaled-s... Is that real or just BS?
It's likely "real". By real, I mean that I just ran JSBench on my MacBook Air with Safari and Chrome (latest released version of each) and Safari came out significantly ahead (Chrome took 1.75x longer). They're claiming 2.53x faster than Chrome in that slide so that would mean an improvement of probably around 50% over the current Safari in terms of JS speed on this benchmark. So, it would seem that this particular b…
What would it say if you ran a benchmark with Safari on your Macbook and Chrome on your Windows/*nix box and Chrome came out significantly ahead?
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It's more capable, unfortunately the interface is rather inscrutable. It's a bunch of little tiny icons with no context you have to guess at. When I have a lot of work to do debugging something, I switch over to Chrome which still has the old style layout, because I find it much easier to use.
yeah the UI is much different. I read somewhere apple is trying to keep the UI consistent among XCode debugger and Safari debugger. Notice, they have almost the same UI design.
That's true, it is somewhat similar with the XCode interface. I'd rather they switch the XCode interface to be more like Safari 5 had.
The interface in XCode isn't bad. My big problem is that you can't view source any more, it's crammed in that panel. The list of requests? Crammed in that panel. JS console? Inspecting elements? All crammed in there.
I always feel light I'm fighting to find what I want instead of switching between things I might need.
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It's likely "real". By real, I mean that I just ran JSBench on my MacBook Air with Safari and Chrome (latest released version of each) and Safari came out significantly ahead (Chrome took 1.75x longer). They're claiming 2.53x faster than Chrome in that slide so that would mean an improvement of probably around 50% over the current Safari in terms of JS speed on this benchmark. So, it would seem that this particular b…
What would it say if you ran a benchmark with Safari on your Macbook and Chrome on your Windows/*nix box and Chrome came out significantly ahead?
Benchmarks taken with different software on different hardware isn't very useful.
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How do we know they aren't holding our private key in escrow?
How about we hold off on leaping to conclusions before we see how it works?
I'm not leaping to any conclusions. I think my question is totally fair. Is Apple providing the source code to this system so that we can audit it? Or do we just have to trust one of the companies implicated in the PRISM scandal?
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It automatically suggests new passwords based on Random strings when it sees a password box.
The average user already has created most of the accounts she will create. Outside of HN not everyone is trying out new services everyday. I could also see many people being confused by a random password and think to themselves that they'll never remember it and then override to use their trusty [but] insecure password. It's also not cross platform so not a solution for many people. It's not Apple's fault, I'm sure i…
What would a better solution look like?