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NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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post #3

46 points in fifteen minutes and not a single comment? This NSA issue is seeming less and less like a discussion topic and more like a echo chamber, despite the rampant lack of information on all sides of the event.

There are three crowds on hn/reddit: Those who vote, those who comment, and those who actually read the article!

Make that four crowds: Those who are waiting for the comment pages to come back to life.

Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Is it just me, or does it seem like this guy probably isn't holed up in Hong Kong but elsewhere? I really hope this guy is smart enough to not actually advertise where in the world he actually is to a bunch of people that would likely have no problems disappearing him. I really hope he's already in Iceland.

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Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Is it just me, or does it seem like this guy probably isn't holed up in Hong Kong but elsewhere? I really hope this guy is smart enough to not actually advertise where in the world he actually is to a bunch of people that would likely have no problems disappearing him. I really hope he's already in Iceland.

Or you know the Icelandic embassy in Hong Kong.

Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Is it just me, or does it seem like this guy probably isn't holed up in Hong Kong but elsewhere? I really hope this guy is smart enough to not actually advertise where in the world he actually is to a bunch of people that would likely have no problems disappearing him. I really hope he's already in Iceland.

It seemed suspicious that in his video interview he said "there's a CIA station right up the street," thus alluding to his location relative to the US embassy. That seems like a way too carelessly revealing statement for an NSA hacker who is so cautious he reportedly covers his keyboard under a sweater while he types his password. So careless it seemed contrived.

Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Is it just me, or does it seem like this guy probably isn't holed up in Hong Kong but elsewhere? I really hope this guy is smart enough to not actually advertise where in the world he actually is to a bunch of people that would likely have no problems disappearing him. I really hope he's already in Iceland.

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Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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Could the media please make an effort not to write articles primarily responding to tweets? This is barely one step above writing articles responding to Youtube comments (please don't get any ideas). You'll find whatever crap you want to find on Twitter. There should be plenty of actual thought out and (intentionally) publicly published opinions longer than 140 characters out there to reply to. It brings your article down in my eyes when you respond to tweets of random private individuals.

I know these people are making public tweets, but ultimately they are not public figures and scouring twitter for their tweets and then exposing them to legions of your like minded followers for public evisceration seems... unprofessional.

Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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post #10

This applies today more than ever. Up vote if you agree. First they came for the conservatives, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a conservative. Then they came for the tea party member, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a tea party member. Then they came for the Libertarians, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a libertarian. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.…

This is everything I hate about Reddit/Chain Letters/Mom and Dads Internet.

You can make lists and ask for upvotes, but instead why don't you go and do some activism. Get off your ass and organize meetings, raise hell until you get people to care about the things you care about.

Sending chain letters on HackerNews is the most Masturbatory thing you can do on the internet besides the deed itself.

Re: NSA leaker is a patriot, not a traitor

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post #9

In my opinion, he is a Traitor just like Bradley Manning for jeopardizing National Security.

It's possible to also be a hero for jeopardising national security. Bad nations should be jeopardised. It's how they become good nations. They stay bad nations when their citizens repeat the mantras they've been taught rather than thinking. Bullshit like "My country, right or wrong" and worshipping flags and all that sort of junk.

It appears that the United States is still, incredible as it seems, a country producing citizens willing to put themselves at risk when the United States is threatened (and let's be serious for a moment here - terrorism was never a threat to the United States, but this is part of an ongoing existential threat to the United States, from its own government; the very people who should be saying "Calm down, folks; times may be scary but let's not throw away our country out of fear," are instead simply competing with each other, spurring hysteria for votes and metaphorically burning the flag they bizarrely teach children to worship). Long may these citizens last.

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