Who is funding him?
Hong Kong Baffled by Snowden’s Hideout
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not? They're both in the sovereign territory of China.
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The OP explains that the Hong Kong judicial system would handle an extradition, but Beijing would be able to veto it.
"Lawyers said Monday that any extradition request would also need to go through the city’s legal system before Beijing could intercede, a process that would likely be drawn out."
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#13Who is funding him?
He earned $200,000 a year. Maybe he has some savings.
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#14Who is funding him?
He earned $200,000 a year. Maybe he has some savings.
To me, the real story is possibly how the government over pays contractors.
The other real story is not that the government does this, it is that the government did not tell us it did this. THAT makes it underhand.
If the government came out and said, look we are storing who calls whom and asking telecos to store that information and, with judicial oversight, we will access that information, and we had a debate about it, that would be the proper way.
The government is taking the course "It is better to ask forgiveness than permission".
Obama is going to take the rap for this, and I therefore wonder at the timing. I think it is important to realize two things
1. Obama continued the Bush era policies 2. Obama continued the Bush era policies
Either that is the ONLY way security can be done, or there is some powerful faction within the bureaucracy which has gotten used to working in the shadows.
I think that there is some bunch of bureaucrats who have gotten too used to having information at hand.
I think we as a community need to keep using the regular methods offered to us via democracy (like posting on this online forum) to express our wish that
a) We be told what the government is doing b) Express our displeasure at the direction the style of governance is going
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#15So why didn't he go to Iceland in the first place? And would Hong Kong let him out if he decides to leave right now, before the US issued any warrant?
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#16Maybe he was ignorant, maybe he was spot on. Maybe his hypothetical extradition will cause a sort-of diplomatic "mess" between Beijing and Honk Kong, leaving him a limbo where neither HK nor China will grant him total asylum but wont extradite him either
There are two areas where SAR have little independence: defense and foreign affairs. Hong Kong will have its own money, postal service, justice, environment ministry, police, ....but it doesn't have a military and its foreign affairs tends to be limited to economic matters.
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#17This is contradicted somewhat by a different source. This one says Hong Kong is a very good place to seek asylum right now, because there is a moratorium on deporting asylum-seekers:
But there is at least one reason it could be incredibly shrewd: Hong Kong's asylum system is currently stuck in a state of limbo that could allow Snowden to exploit a loophole and buy some valuable time.
Simon Young, director of the Centre for Comparative and Public Law at the University of Hong Kong, told GlobalPost that a decision delivered by Hong Kong's High Court in March of this year required the government to create a new procedure for reviewing asylum applications.
Until the government does this, he said, asylum seekers are allowed to stay in Hong Kong indefinitely.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific...
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#18Too many batman movies
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#19> Hong Kong is the worst place in the world for any person to avoid extradition, with the possible exception of the United Kingdom
I'm British, and this both saddens and angers me. It's time for a change.
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#20> Hong Kong is the worst place in the world for any person to avoid extradition, with the possible exception of the United Kingdom I'm British, and this both saddens and angers me. It's time for a change.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, it is all politics and all selective. A lot of Russians fled to the UK to elude justice in Russia. Whether they are political refugees or indeed committed crimes back home is another matter, but London is certainly a safe harbour for many of them.