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Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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This is very nice of Jonsdottir, but given the current conservative government in Iceland, I doubt it is a safe place for Snowden.

In fact, given how widespread the American influence is, I can't think of a safe country for him. Apart from Ecuadorian embassy-like hideouts.

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A competing theory is that he is actually spying for the PRC. Hong Kong would be an obvious choice for a wealthy, Western spy seeking Chinese protection. They're semi-autonomous, but military affairs are run by the PRC, and in particular the PRC has control over foreign extradition: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-h... If this wasn't a priori the best theory, surely the HK part adds some Ba…

Do you have more information about this theory? The discussion has been so one-sided, I feel obligated to seek other interpretations.

I haven't found any interesting information. Apparently this theory is being speculated on CNN (as I said, neither interesting, nor information...)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-cia-officer-officials-cons...

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you've been paying attention. Glenn Greenwald (who writes for the Guardian) and Laura Poitras (who's independent, but has had bylines for both the Guardian and WP) interviewed him in his hotel room in Hong Kong. He definitely was in Hong Kong for a while.

That was kind of my point. I wasn't the one who said "he might not even be in Hong Kong."

I think the poster of that statement meant that in the interview he made it sound like he was intending to stay in Hong Kong, but that may well not be his strategy.

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #8

Slightly off-topic question, but why did he not just go to Iceland in the first place? Hong Kong does not seem like the best destination here.

If you didn't have any direct relationship and assurances from a government that you'd be protected from extradition, which one would you go to?

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #8

Slightly off-topic question, but why did he not just go to Iceland in the first place? Hong Kong does not seem like the best destination here.

Other than one minority party MP trying to win votes, what makes you think Iceland would be better? Iceland has an extradition treaty with the US, is a NATO member and the current conservative government doesn't show any desire to piss off the Americans.

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #8

Slightly off-topic question, but why did he not just go to Iceland in the first place? Hong Kong does not seem like the best destination here.

Isn't the obvious answer that China would be less willing to extradite people to the US? Not as unwilling as, say, Iran, but still.

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post #28

FYI: Birgitta is in a minority opposition party (The Icelandic pirate party) with 3 representatives out of 63. Given the ruling government's track record, both regarding refugees seeking asylum as well as a strong will to have good relations with the U.S., I find it highly unlikely he will be given asylum in Iceland. Now, Bobby Fischer was given an asylum in Iceland in 2006 in a unanimous parliament vote - but that w…

Perhaps Snowden will not be given asylum this time but you bet that the Pirate Party, the only official political movement on his side, will have more than 3 members of parliament after the next election.

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #28

FYI: Birgitta is in a minority opposition party (The Icelandic pirate party) with 3 representatives out of 63. Given the ruling government's track record, both regarding refugees seeking asylum as well as a strong will to have good relations with the U.S., I find it highly unlikely he will be given asylum in Iceland. Now, Bobby Fischer was given an asylum in Iceland in 2006 in a unanimous parliament vote - but that w…

Perhaps Snowden will not be given asylum this time but you bet that the Pirate Party, the only official political movement on his side, will have more than 3 members of parliament after the next election.

Yes, we hope so. But that is up to the icelandic people and whether or not they care.

Re: I'm Ready To Help NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden Seek Asylum

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post #24
post #12

The problem is people always screw up and a decade later they think it's okay to visit the US for a conference or something and don't realize they will never see the light of day again once they step into that airport. Or some country wants a political favor from the current US president so they turn him over. Very brave dude but his life is just about as over as Bradley Manning.

More likely, he could be flying somewhere and the plane either enters US airspace, or has to make an emergency (real or not) landing in the US.

Do you think passengers involved in an emergency landing go through immigration and customs? Can they shop at the duty free store as well?
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