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Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by baddox »

danpalmer wrote: post #6

I'm not sure if Apple did a good job at keeping secrets, or whether there isn't anything to keep a secret about? We're expecting new software, but that's easy for Apple to keep under wraps as it doesn't really have to be used outside Cupertino, unlike manufactured products like an iPhone. Nothing abnormally secret there. We're expecting new MacBooks, but the rumour is a move to Haswell, which would only be a spec bum…

> Nothing abnormally secret again.

What do you mean by this? You listed the things that we do know, then said nothing about those things are abnormally secret.

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by dman »

kunai wrote: post #9

I hope we see a modern, case-sensitive filesystem, for once, without resource or data forks of any kind. Second, I hope we see better graphics, new OpenGL is a must. Third, maybe a fresher UI similar to iTunes 11, would be nice. Aqua is dated. That's all I hope for. Just wait for it, the announcement is tomorrow. It's only 21 hours away... just wait.

+1 for newer opengl. 3.2 is from 2009 :(

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by Tloewald »

brianwillis wrote: post #12

It certainly has been odd watching Apple this year. Normally the company announces something significant every few months, but in 2013 they've gone (almost) completely silent. The last product release of note was the 2012 iMac, which was announced in October. So that's seven or eight months of silence. Something has been brewing at Cupertino, and I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Between this and E3, this week is like…

Based on Cook's statements during the last earnings report, we're not going to see a new category of hardware before Q4, but opening AppleTV for third party development, announcing broader content for AppleTV, and announcing a beefier AppleTV would be huge — I think the living room is Apple's to lose.

Imagine an AppleTV with sufficient grunt for games that uses iOS devices as remotes.

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by nairteashop »

mikehc wrote: post #18
ancarda wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be interested to know what areas jumped out as "fanboy-ish" to you.

"No, Apple did not invent the touchscreen. But the iPhone... It was the first touchscreen device that mattered." There you go.

Out of genuine curiosity, what touchscreen device would you say then was actually the first one that mattered?

I assume by "mattered" Gruber meant mass market popularity, which IMO was mostly because Apple did get many things right in their touchscreen. (I owned a bunch of touchscreen devices before my first iPhone and they all sucked from a user experience perspective - missed taps, sluggish response, lack of multitouch, requirement for a special stylus etc).

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by gurkendoktor »

wslh wrote: post #10
danpalmer wrote: post #6

I'm not sure if Apple did a good job at keeping secrets, or whether there isn't anything to keep a secret about? We're expecting new software, but that's easy for Apple to keep under wraps as it doesn't really have to be used outside Cupertino, unlike manufactured products like an iPhone. Nothing abnormally secret there. We're expecting new MacBooks, but the rumour is a move to Haswell, which would only be a spec bum…

I am happy if they add a share button like the Android one. It's a small wish but it's clear that Apple is falling behind in many areas except performance and battery life on tablets. Relaxing App Store rules to include programming languages/VMs will give a little boost to our community too. If I want to learn Haskell I want to do it on the iPad.

Haskell and VMs are not against the App Store rules at all, you just cannot JIT anything. The ban against non-C languages was only in place long enough to scare Adobe away.

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by kunai »

mikegreco wrote: post #20
kunai wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> brought Unix to the mass market Not really. 90% of Mac users don't care or know what Unix is. They don't know that OS X's toolchain and userland are based on FreeBSD. All they care about is ease of use. Developers like OS X because it is Unix, and if OS X wasn't, they would just be using GNU+Linux or BSD anyway.

> Not really. 90% of Mac users don't care or know what Unix is. This is exactly why it is brilliant. The average user is NOT a unix user, but the average developer is. The reason OS X is doing so well the same reason Facebook Home bombed. Developers are actually using the systems they are writing code for.

In a sense, however, this is egregious. Since 10.6 OS X has been about abandoning developers and professionals and catering to consumers. The removal of 2-dimensional workspace management, inconsistency in NATIVE application look and feel (this is ridiculous, I can understand when there's inconsistency in third party applications, but to have in-house apps look and feel completely different is absurd) and the inability to easily remove unneeded or unwanted "features" in the OS has made OS X a pain in the ass for many, including me.

I've vacillated on switching back to Ubuntu for quite a while now. I always end up making a Linux partition, installing Ubuntu on it, but I come back to OS X, just because

1. Less worry about configuration 2. Greater OS-wide service communication and integration 3. Laziness

I've been considering creating a GNU+Linux distro with an OpenStep-compatible toolkit at its core (http://gnustep.org/) so that I can get the famous Cocoa look and feel, but with the modularity of Linux.

Still haven't done it yet.

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by guptaneil »

mikehc wrote: post #18
ancarda wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be interested to know what areas jumped out as "fanboy-ish" to you.

"No, Apple did not invent the touchscreen. But the iPhone... It was the first touchscreen device that mattered." There you go.

I'd be interested to know which mainstream touchscreen device really impacted society before the iPhone.

Whether or not you like the iPhone, it's rather hard to claim that it didn't revolutionize the cell phone market.

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by packetslave »

kunai wrote: post #9

I hope we see a modern, case-sensitive filesystem, for once, without resource or data forks of any kind. Second, I hope we see better graphics, new OpenGL is a must. Third, maybe a fresher UI similar to iTunes 11, would be nice. Aqua is dated. That's all I hope for. Just wait for it, the announcement is tomorrow. It's only 21 hours away... just wait.

The problem with modern, case-sensitive filesystems is that old software (and frameworks) don't like them. IIRC, case-sensitive HFS+ still isn't the default because Adobe software breaks if installed on it. Apple's not willing to say "sorry, you millions of Photoshop users, we're going to be technologically pure"

Re: WWDC 2013 Expectations

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Post by wslh »

Tloewald wrote: post #19
wslh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am happy if they add a share button like the Android one. It's a small wish but it's clear that Apple is falling behind in many areas except performance and battery life on tablets. Relaxing App Store rules to include programming languages/VMs will give a little boost to our community too. If I want to learn Haskell I want to do it on the iPad.

The way apps can interoperate in Android is definitely an advantage over iOS for developers, but it's a security/sandbox issue not a lack of capability in the OS. iOS hugely trails Android in malware... Coincidence? App Store allows programming languages and even VMs. It doesn't allow running externally sourced code.

But the same can be applied to copy&paste. We are not talking about rocket science....
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