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Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by dylangs1030 »

tome wrote: post #32
dylangs1030 wrote: post #24

Since this isn't immediately clear to commenters - this is designed to be ironic. I don't know if all the people volunteering tweets know that, but it's clearly described in the website linked on this Twitter account[1]. I highly recommend you go there for further reading, it presents a lot of useful data about the FBI and the United States' breach of privacy and constitutional rights recently and historically. The a…

> I don't know if all the people volunteering tweets know that They're not volunteering tweets are they? Surely the retweeting is without their knowledge or approval. > The author is trying to send a message ironically and rally people against the NSA's abuses A worthy goal, but I wonder if it might be self-defeating. It portrays this data-gathering as something a huge amount of people simply do not mind.

They're writing the tweets, I wasn't speaking to the tweets then being retweeted.

I also wonder that, it seems eerie how many people are "acting" as though the Twitter is not ironic.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by dylangs1030 »

kefka wrote: post #2

Since you all have nothing to hide, please post the following: Name Address Phone # date of birth SS # credit card numbers+ expr dates+cvv Routing and account numbers for relevant bank accounts Logins/passwords to commonly used services Your security question/answer combos Pictures of all your keys on your keychain Well, unless, you're a terrorist and don't want to volunteer this info.

This Twitter account is ironic. They're not actually siding with the NSA. Look at the website listed in the bio[1].

http://danielsieradski.com/nothing-to-hide/14572

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by miguelrochefort »

EliRivers wrote: post #34
miguelrochefort wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to hide anything. You simply choose to, which is sad.

What's the URL for the live feed from your bedroom?

Read my reply to the first comment (the one asking for "personal" information).

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by Zirro »

dylangs1030 wrote: post #42
kefka wrote: post #2

Since you all have nothing to hide, please post the following: Name Address Phone # date of birth SS # credit card numbers+ expr dates+cvv Routing and account numbers for relevant bank accounts Logins/passwords to commonly used services Your security question/answer combos Pictures of all your keys on your keychain Well, unless, you're a terrorist and don't want to volunteer this info.

This Twitter account is ironic. They're not actually siding with the NSA. Look at the website listed in the bio[1]. http://danielsieradski.com/nothing-to-hide/14572

I'm quite sure OP was addressing the people whose tweets were featured on that account, and not the owner of the account itself.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by miguelrochefort »

popee wrote: post #33
miguelrochefort wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to hide anything. You simply choose to, which is sad.

So why is NSA hiding anything from public?

Because that's what they do. By funding them with your taxes, you accept their "protection" and their opacity.

If you don't like what they do, which is my case, fight them. Don't hide behind privacy.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by miguelrochefort »

davisr wrote: post #8

I'd love to see digital privacy taught as part of the curriculum in public school computer classes. If every student learned their rights when they learned how to type, these fools with 'nothing to hide' would think a bit deeper about all the information (including the info that may be used against them in a court of law) they've posted online over the past 10-15 years.

Don't be silly.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by tome »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #38
mantas wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why sad?

It is sad that you (and most people here) prefer to live in a society where it's socially acceptable to hide who you truly are based on irrational fear of judgement, rather than be open and benefit from the improved communication which publicity offers. We learned to accept and tolerate most directly noticeable features of people. Maybe you don't want to communicate your skin color, your height, your gender or your l…

It's not fear of judgement. It's fear of abuse by potentially tyrannical government.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by asperous »

ck2 wrote: post #39

Think about how the NSA helped stop all the killings and maimings at the boston bombing. Oh wait, they didn't - from two super stupid criminals not even trying to hide what they were planning. So WTF good are they doing for all the damage they've done to our society. NSA has become just like the TSA, completely useless theater that hassles everyone and accomplishes nothing. Just wait until they can park hundreds of d…

Apparently they stopped some other bombing (though it's pretty hard to convict a criminal guilty purely on intent).

I think it just comes down to the trade off of freedom vs. loss of life.

I mean that's what it's really about, isn't it? We are giving up the freedom of privacy for the potential of more security?

Yet, This is not the American Way

At one point we realized that in order to protect the freedoms of our people we had to die. That's why so many fought in the revolutionary war. To protect our rights and freedoms as citizens against the State (England, at the time).

If we just lay down like dogs now and let our government walk over us like dogs, all those lives will have been wasted.

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by EliRivers »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #43
EliRivers wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the URL for the live feed from your bedroom?

Read my reply to the first comment (the one asking for "personal" information).

So you want to choose what rules apply to you in any given context? Or is it just that you're happy to be told by the government what the rules are for each context?

Re: People with nothing to hide

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Post by ck2 »

coldcode wrote: post #30

Assume someone at the NSA has access to the data. Assume they have money problems or drugs or gambling. Assume a criminal or terrorist organization has money to buy access. Assume you're screwed.

Here's the thing - in theory the NSA knows about every corrupt cop in the country based on their calls, emails and financial data.

Yet they've done nothing. Interesting situation.

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