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Re: People with nothing to hide

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Since you all have nothing to hide, please post the following: Name Address Phone # date of birth SS # credit card numbers+ expr dates+cvv Routing and account numbers for relevant bank accounts Logins/passwords to commonly used services Your security question/answer combos Pictures of all your keys on your keychain Well, unless, you're a terrorist and don't want to volunteer this info.

And please send credit card of Obama. But that would be terrorism.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#32

Since this isn't immediately clear to commenters - this is designed to be ironic. I don't know if all the people volunteering tweets know that, but it's clearly described in the website linked on this Twitter account[1]. I highly recommend you go there for further reading, it presents a lot of useful data about the FBI and the United States' breach of privacy and constitutional rights recently and historically. The a…

> I don't know if all the people volunteering tweets know that

They're not volunteering tweets are they? Surely the retweeting is without their knowledge or approval.

> The author is trying to send a message ironically and rally people against the NSA's abuses

A worthy goal, but I wonder if it might be self-defeating. It portrays this data-gathering as something a huge amount of people simply do not mind.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. The freedom of choice is a very important factor in democracy.

When you walk in the street, do you choose whether I see your or not? Why shouldn't consent be necessary in that case, but should be in others? EDIT: Who sets the limit between what is implicitly private and public? Let's say I made the decision to add thermal vision to my left eye, and happen to see what you do inside your house. Am I hurting your privacy?

> Who sets the limit between what is implicitly private and public?

Common sense. In most cases, it resolves the issue. Yes - if you are snooping on me inside my house, you are hurting my privacy.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#36
post #11

I also have no problem with those people willingly sending anyone any of their personal information. The problem is when people aren't given a choice whether their personal information is kept secret.

But the choice needs to be free, not coerced. Programs like Global Entry, TSA Pre, and CLEAR are examples of (minor) coercion, inconveniencing those who do not sign up.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#37
If all of the privacy breaching done by your government isn't an issue then nobody should criticize Adolf Hitler for 'spying' on his citizens, either. Ever. What he did was - if we use the logic of whoever benefits from this practice - perfectly fine. Because nobody had nothing to hide, at least not the decent folks! Right? So using this logic, Hitler was right. America is - by the way - far worse than Hitler's Germany ever was with regard to restrictiveness, control and breach of personal privacy. Yet Hitler is always the bad man and a poster boy for everything that is wrong with your country...funny.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#38
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to hide anything. You simply choose to, which is sad.

Why sad?

It is sad that you (and most people here) prefer to live in a society where it's socially acceptable to hide who you truly are based on irrational fear of judgement, rather than be open and benefit from the improved communication which publicity offers.

We learned to accept and tolerate most directly noticeable features of people. Maybe you don't want to communicate your skin color, your height, your gender or your location when walking down the street, but you still do and probably don't really care about it. It's socially accepted to communicate these features anyway.

How are more "private" information about you any different? After all, walking "naked" on a nudist beach is also normal and socially acceptable.

Tolerance has no limits. All it requires is some adaptation time. One day, people will be open about their sexuality, religion, political ideologies and feelings, and the world will be a better place.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#39
Think about how the NSA helped stop all the killings and maimings at the boston bombing.

Oh wait, they didn't - from two super stupid criminals not even trying to hide what they were planning.

So WTF good are they doing for all the damage they've done to our society.

NSA has become just like the TSA, completely useless theater that hassles everyone and accomplishes nothing.

Just wait until they can park hundreds of drones over every city and track everyone's movements historically, forever - the logic will be you are in public so no warrant needed or there will be yet another secret warrant for the entire country.

Re: People with nothing to hide

#40

Since this isn't immediately clear to commenters - this is designed to be ironic. I don't know if all the people volunteering tweets know that, but it's clearly described in the website linked on this Twitter account[1]. I highly recommend you go there for further reading, it presents a lot of useful data about the FBI and the United States' breach of privacy and constitutional rights recently and historically. The a…

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