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The PPS lists various types of data the NSA gets from various companies. For some reason most commenters here chose to interpret this to mean the NSA has a direct pipe feeding it all of these companies data. The fact the PPS mentions it's a $20m program should inform that this is obviously not the case. Is it just a matter of wanting to believe the more outrageous version?
I don't know who to believe anymore...
Strategically placed traffic monitoring at major ISPs is enough to build a pretty complete picture. I can imagine SSL traffic doesn't even pose much of a hurdle to a well funded project. You don't need the data in real time.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I read your previous excerpt and I've read this very post here before. Repeating it over and over (this is your 3rd post so far posting this link) doesn't make me believe it any more strongly.
The point of posting it multiple times is to make an attempt at unwinding some of the damage done by countless misreports.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/343421926057861121
And what about the FISA requests Google cannot legally talk about?
Hey Eric! How's the Bilderberg conference going? Is the food good? Have you guys picked the next president yet?
From Glenn Greenwald's twitter, https://twitter.com/ggreenwald : Allow me to quote from the NSA document we just published defining PRISM: "COLLECTION DIRECTLY FROM THE SERVERS" Our story was written *from the start* to say NSA claimed this, telecoms deny-we wanted them to have to work it out *in public* what they do We reported - accurately - what the NSA claims. We reported - accurately - what the companies claim.…
"We reported - wrongly - what was actually happening in the real world." The lede on Greenwald's story: The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian. Then, just 1 graf later: The Guardian has verified the authenticity of the document [...] Later: The NSA access was enabled by…
There's no substantive difference between "It was followed by Yahoo in 2008" and "The document claims it was followed by Yahoo in 2008." The furor of the past 72 hours has given no reason to question the document's authenticity nor the existence of the program the document entails. The president himself has alluded to the existence of the PRISM program and attempted to assure us all that it was only to keep an eye on foreigners and not citizens.