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“Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by gamblor956 »

3JPLW wrote: post #12
crusso wrote: post #5

Watched a few minutes and decided it's worth bookmarking. Maybe it can wash out the awful taste in my after watching "Into Darkness". I have to wonder about the IP issues. I didn't see anything on their site regarding what will stop CBS from going after them.

© Copyright 2012 Farragut Films, Dracogen Strategic Investments and Vic Mignogna Star Trek®, Star Trek: The Next Generation®, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine®, Star Trek: Voyager®, Star Trek Enterprise® and all associated marks and characters are registered trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All rights reserved. The use of anything related to "Star Trek" on any of these web sites is not meant to be an infringement on CBS Stud…

Because it's not copyright infringement. Copyright applies to the content (i.e., DVDs, videos, or even simply clips of larger videos). Fanfiction is not (usually) copyright infringement because ideas can't be copyrighted, only the distinct expression of the idea can. (Without going down the rabbit hole, Captain Kirk is an idea, his portrayal in any particular tv show or movie would be the expression of that idea).

The video is disclaiming trademark infringement, which is not a crime.

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by gamblor956 »

sp332 wrote: post #27
3JPLW wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

© Copyright 2012 Farragut Films, Dracogen Strategic Investments and Vic Mignogna Star Trek®, Star Trek: The Next Generation®, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine®, Star Trek: Voyager®, Star Trek Enterprise® and all associated marks and characters are registered trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All rights reserved. The use of anything related to "Star Trek" on any of these web sites is not meant to be an infringement on CBS Stud…

Because mens rea is required for a criminal (felony) copyright infringement. A civil case could still be brought for damages, but a federal prosecutor has to prove the violator did it intentionally. http://books.google.com/books?id=Mw5a7mL8XYAC&lpg=PA1183&ots... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

The very fact of deliberately making copies for financial gain is mens rea enough for copyright infringement. However, that is irrelevant here, since the issue is not copyright infringement but trademark infringement.

Paramount has generally ignored (or blessed) fanfiction videos and literature with regards to Star Trek (but the same cannot be said for video games).

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by sp332 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #32
sp332 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because mens rea is required for a criminal (felony) copyright infringement. A civil case could still be brought for damages, but a federal prosecutor has to prove the violator did it intentionally. http://books.google.com/books?id=Mw5a7mL8XYAC&lpg=PA1183&ots... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea

The very fact of deliberately making copies for financial gain is mens rea enough for copyright infringement. However, that is irrelevant here, since the issue is not copyright infringement but trademark infringement. Paramount has generally ignored (or blessed) fanfiction videos and literature with regards to Star Trek (but the same cannot be said for video games).

Unless they put ads on the videos, I don't think a YouTube post counts as financial gain.

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by jawngee »

gagege wrote: post #8
crusso wrote: post #5

Watched a few minutes and decided it's worth bookmarking. Maybe it can wash out the awful taste in my after watching "Into Darkness". I have to wonder about the IP issues. I didn't see anything on their site regarding what will stop CBS from going after them.

Why didn't you like Into Darkness?

I liked it until I thought about it later. But while I was watching it I really really enjoyed it.

Afterwards, I thought about it as a story and it didn't make much sense.

I'm also still trying to figure out how Kirk is a captain of a star ship right out of the academy in a way that is plausible and doesn't require an actual antigravity machine to suspend my disbelief.

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by sigzero »

gagege wrote: post #8
crusso wrote: post #5

Watched a few minutes and decided it's worth bookmarking. Maybe it can wash out the awful taste in my after watching "Into Darkness". I have to wonder about the IP issues. I didn't see anything on their site regarding what will stop CBS from going after them.

Why didn't you like Into Darkness?

Because of all the stupid stuff in it?

http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-50892...

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by [deleted] »

loire280 wrote: post #29
Nux wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It didn't take off because it didn't gather enough audience. Most people have a prejudice against SciFi. It took me several months to convince my girlfriend to watch Firefly and more than a year for BSG, but in the end she loved them both very much.

I'm hoping that the mass appeal of BSG (especially now that it has a second life on Netflix) and the accessibility of the new Star Trek movies will pave the way for more space opera on TV.

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Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by megablast »

sigzero wrote: post #37
gagege wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why didn't you like Into Darkness?

Because of all the stupid stuff in it? http://io9.com/star-trek-into-darkness-the-spoiler-faq-50892...

> Look, I know Star Trek is science fiction, but hasn’t Trek always at least nominally tried to get science right?

Hmm, maybe a little bit. At least not as bad as into darkness.

Re: “Star Trek Continues”: Fan-made episodes carry on the five-year mission

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Post by Zardoz84 »

It's good, I will bookmark it. This fan-films are a "old stuff" now. I helped a bit with one some time ago, making some 3d stuff for Star Trek Origins.

If you like this, you will love Star Trek Phase II http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/ The first chapters two aren't very good, but they make a steady progress improving it, and actually have a great quality in all senses.

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