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NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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Keith Alexander, NSA Chief, once blamed his late arrival at a Washington event to a DDoS (distributed denial of service) hacking attack on city street lights.... Wow.

That was a joke, as the article points out. As in, all the lights happened to be timed such that he was denied from moving.

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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post #15

Keith Alexander, NSA Chief, once blamed his late arrival at a Washington event to a DDoS (distributed denial of service) hacking attack on city street lights.... Wow.

Got a source? That sounds so incredible I almost want it to be true.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/26/cybersecurity-nsa-...

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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There's two things here: a lie by omission if they are receiving the data via other agencies; and he's also saying that every other agency is spying on the American people. Someone might want to look into that last part, because I'm fine for taking the flashlight off of the NSA if every other agency is participating in this activity.

Sen. Feinstein, are you there?

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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One way of interpreting his comments: We suck up all the data and then apply filters to remove domestic information. Although the NSA has access to information on the American people, it does not specifically target Americans and discards purely domestic information. As such, it is not "spying on the American people" so much as inflicting collateral damage on the privacy of the American people.

To a certain extent, this is understandable. The NSA may not trust Verizon's judgment on who a foreign national is. And the nature of a more specific request may reveal classified information -- e.g. if the NSA asked for "all calls to Libya" just prior to the bombing campaign, that may have revealed something was up.

That's not to say any of this is justified, or that the attempts to filter out domestic information are effective. Apparently, you have to be 49% foreign or less to be filtered out, whatever that means (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/06/bombsh...).

But it's the explanation I would give if I were him.

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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post #21
post #15

Keith Alexander, NSA Chief, once blamed his late arrival at a Washington event to a DDoS (distributed denial of service) hacking attack on city street lights.... Wow.

That was a joke, as the article points out. As in, all the lights happened to be timed such that he was denied from moving.

more like a "serial denial of service"

but who's counting among friends, huh?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe indeed, but what was easier?

they could label them as terrorists and it becomes alot easier...

They're doing that now... bit too late.. But who's going to believe they needed a nuke to blast a few flies?

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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One way of interpreting his comments: We suck up all the data and then apply filters to remove domestic information. Although the NSA has access to information on the American people, it does not specifically target Americans and discards purely domestic information. As such, it is not "spying on the American people" so much as inflicting collateral damage on the privacy of the American people. To a certain extent, t…

I know this is reductio at hitlerum, but about 70 years ago, you had to be 49% foreign or less not to be filtered out...

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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One way of interpreting his comments: We suck up all the data and then apply filters to remove domestic information. Although the NSA has access to information on the American people, it does not specifically target Americans and discards purely domestic information. As such, it is not "spying on the American people" so much as inflicting collateral damage on the privacy of the American people. To a certain extent, t…

I hear the argument, but I'm just worried about this: what happens in the future if a future politician can change the definition of "terrorist" to include "hacker" or "dissident" or "activist"?
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