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NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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There's a discussion to be had here. If you're a foreign intelligence agency looking to commit espionage, how hard would it be to get someone inside a Verizon or AT&T? Imagine what type of pervasive data a potential adversary could gather via these means?

Something any major business with foreign competitors should consider before using cloud services or trusting telecom vendors.

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WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

Ham-handed references are the text equivalent to meme images.

It's the wrong "meme", too, at least I don't see the doublespeak. I'm calling Big Lie instead.

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There's a discussion to be had here. If you're a foreign intelligence agency looking to commit espionage, how hard would it be to get someone inside a Verizon or AT&T? Imagine what type of pervasive data a potential adversary could gather via these means? Something any major business with foreign competitors should consider before using cloud services or trusting telecom vendors.

Or impersonate the NSA and divert their data to your servers.

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There's a discussion to be had here. If you're a foreign intelligence agency looking to commit espionage, how hard would it be to get someone inside a Verizon or AT&T? Imagine what type of pervasive data a potential adversary could gather via these means? Something any major business with foreign competitors should consider before using cloud services or trusting telecom vendors.

I would be very surprised if at least one foreign agency at least has not already hacked into both Verizon and AT&T ... one could argue that the US govt has at least been trying to do it (semi) legitimately just to keep up.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ham-handed references are the text equivalent to meme images.

It's the wrong "meme", too, at least I don't see the doublespeak. I'm calling Big Lie instead.

Of course its doublespeak. Knowingly stating the exact opposite of what is true as fact. The only way it would be more obviously doublespeak is to say "Spying is privacy".

Re: NSA chief: ‘We’re the only ones not spying on the American people’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the wrong "meme", too, at least I don't see the doublespeak. I'm calling Big Lie instead.

Of course its doublespeak. Knowingly stating the exact opposite of what is true as fact. The only way it would be more obviously doublespeak is to say "Spying is privacy".

> doublespeak. Knowingly stating the exact opposite of what is true as fact

I don't think so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak

> The only way it would be more obviously doublespeak is to say "Spying is privacy".

That's where it would begin to be doublespeak, at least as far as I understand it.

Regardless of wether it's doublespeak, it surely is a Big Lie: Nobody spies more on American citizens than American intelligence agencies. Let's just assume that as fact. Now,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie : "a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

To say "We’re the only ones not spying on the American people" when nobody else does it more, that's oh so very clearly a Big Lie to me.

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