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NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by mtgx »

yogo wrote: post #3
cdooh wrote: post #2

Two days, two major reveals, wouldn't be suprised if tomorrow I wake up to find out that they've been switching on the microphones and cameras on webcams and cellphones.

Not to mention all of the revelations over the past few weeks. Either the administration is trying to top Nixon or there is some kind of conspiracy playing out.

All of this deserves impeachment. Will Congress oblige? That's the real question. Normally, Republicans would be more than happy to do it - but for something like this? I'm more skeptical about that.

Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by jessaustin »

o0-0o wrote: post #4
yogo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention all of the revelations over the past few weeks. Either the administration is trying to top Nixon or there is some kind of conspiracy playing out.

I think their is a high placed mole. It might even be that Obama is the source of the leaks, and he's a good guy after all. Jury is still out on that one.

If so, it's great that so many Rs have condemned all this spying: they can't now turn around and impeach him for leaking about it.

Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by tyre »

rasterizer wrote: post #8

For what it's worth Apple and Google denie it: http://www.cnbc.com/id/100797046

Not exactly. From the article: >Google specifically denied that it has a "back door for the >government to access private user data."

>Apple told CNBC, "We have never heard of PRISM. We do not >provide any government agency with direct access to our >servers, and any government agency requesting customer data >must get a court order."

They are not providing a back door, but it isn't the _means_ of providing information to the NSA that citizens are upset about, it is the 'providing information to the NSA' part.

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Post by gyardley »

cdooh wrote: post #6
yogo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention all of the revelations over the past few weeks. Either the administration is trying to top Nixon or there is some kind of conspiracy playing out.

I wonder how the Obama administration will repond to this other than the usual "Terrorism is bad and you need to trust us that we do all this for your own safety"

Depends on the level of criticism, I suppose. I expect to hear the perennial favorite at some point: "It's all Bush's fault because he did it first!"

If things get really bad, perhaps there'll also be a bit of "I was as shocked and angry as you were when I learned about these things for the first time from my morning paper," followed by a few rounds of "Quick, look over there, some right-wing guy said something stupid!"

Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by uvdiv »

adrinavarro wrote: post #10

Now. Exactly which data is exposed for each provider? I'm thinking mostly about Gmail. Because virtually everyone now is using it… The whole content of any communications? Just origin/dest? This is becoming scary.

Exactly which data is exposed for each provider?

According to slide 2, all of it. You might be confusing this with yesterday's Verizon story, which was "only" metadata -- caller, sender, time, and duration. This one is "actual" data -- email content, chat text, audio/video of VoIP calls.

(From the article, there's also a parallel NSA program (BLARNEY) that collects metadata only. I don't know why there's two of them).

Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by o0-0o »

FireBeyond wrote: post #13

Why leave Apple off the list in the title submission? (Because they deny it? Then better leave Google off the list, too - they deny it as well).

Actually, in my haste to post I only listed the ones that I thought of right away. I was quite disappointed to hear the Apple too, has succomb.

Now I really have a reason to install Debian Wheezy on MBPr. ;p

This is no way to live. Something must be done.

Re: NSA slides explain the PRISM data-collection program

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Post by mcantelon »

cdooh wrote: post #2

Two days, two major reveals, wouldn't be suprised if tomorrow I wake up to find out that they've been switching on the microphones and cameras on webcams and cellphones.

The CIA has stated that it wants to do this.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/

Tech like the XBox One will make this pretty easy (as its microphone is always on and the Kinect cam is integrated).

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