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Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by homosaur »

kunai wrote: post #28

What is truly a scary thought is if the vast, mindless mass of people easily swayed by consumerism, advertisement and buzz, talk about this for about two weeks and then forget the whole thing, screaming "We have NOTHING to hide!" as a logically flawed and incredibly poor excuse. The entire premise that democracy would work is flawed. Take Turkey. A ravaged, torn, depressed state, brought back to life by a fucking dic…

You're more of an optimist about the state than I am because I think the only POSSIBLE resolution long term is the dissolution of all state power and moving towards enclaved/anarchistic models. Basically I'm talking about the Diamond Age in real life here. Hell, we already have prototype matter compilers. When an enclave all has 3d manufacturing and scanning down and starts to build their own civilization kits, of what use is the state to anyone aside from starting wars?

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by pionar »

saraid216 wrote: post #67
nitrogen wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is not knowing "what [they] might need in the future" really sufficient justification to just give them everything?

That's how a web crawler works, though, right?

But phone calls are not supposed to be public, and web crawlers only access items which are public, so your argument isn't valid.

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by daniel-cussen »

This is probably why US bandwidth hasn't increased in ten years. Telecoms didn't want it to, obviously, but more importantly, the US government didn't want it to either, because more bandwidth increases the amount of information they have to store to have a carbon copy of everything.

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by idontthinkso »

rayiner wrote: post #39
kunai wrote: post #28

What is truly a scary thought is if the vast, mindless mass of people easily swayed by consumerism, advertisement and buzz, talk about this for about two weeks and then forget the whole thing, screaming "We have NOTHING to hide!" as a logically flawed and incredibly poor excuse. The entire premise that democracy would work is flawed. Take Turkey. A ravaged, torn, depressed state, brought back to life by a fucking dic…

> What is truly a scary thought is if the vast, mindless mass of people... This is why privacy advocates (and libertarians more generally), can't get more popular traction: the incredibly derisive and arrogant tone with which they address their fellow citizens, and their flippant, dismissive attitude towards democracy. Why should I listen to the opinions of someone who calls my parents, most of my friends, my in-laws…

"This is why..."

Are you sure? Can you prove it?

Perhaps the traction is absent because the people are in fact "mindless" about such issues.

And your comment begs the question: Why should I listen to (i.e. read and take seriously) the opinions of someone who consistently belittles his fellow hackers on HN? Or who consistently takes an arrogant tone in every comment he makes, day in and day out, on HN? Or who consistently exhibits a dissmissive attitude toward the opinions of other hackers?

Give it a rest, rayiner. I, as an older hacker unlike most of your targets, am tired of reading your argumentative gibberish.

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by Tangaroa »

coherentpony wrote: post #30

Can we please stop with the politics/outrage posts? If I wanted to see articles recycled from /r/politics, I would read reddit.

This one actually has techie relevance, but I hear what you're saying. The political links and their duplicates and their duplicates are drowning out the technology posts, even on /classic.

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by maxerickson »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #93

This is probably why US bandwidth hasn't increased in ten years. Telecoms didn't want it to, obviously, but more importantly, the US government didn't want it to either, because more bandwidth increases the amount of information they have to store to have a carbon copy of everything.

Individual connections haven't gotten a great deal faster, but more people have higher speed connections and they are using them more. Traffic has increased by some enormous factor in the last 10 years (picking conservatively from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic easily gets a factor of 20 or 30).

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by czbond »

regehr wrote: post #80
ngoel36 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably why Goldman Sachs is moving a lot of its new hires to Salt Lake

I live in SLC and have met quite a few people over the last few years who lost jobs in the financial sector, usually in the NYC area, and subsequently moved to Utah.

I'm from Dallas, and love SLC (an avid outdoors-man). Why have the financial types you've run into said they've moved? Curious

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by daniel-cussen »

maxerickson wrote: post #97
daniel-cussen wrote: post #93

This is probably why US bandwidth hasn't increased in ten years. Telecoms didn't want it to, obviously, but more importantly, the US government didn't want it to either, because more bandwidth increases the amount of information they have to store to have a carbon copy of everything.

Individual connections haven't gotten a great deal faster, but more people have higher speed connections and they are using them more. Traffic has increased by some enormous factor in the last 10 years (picking conservatively from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic easily gets a factor of 20 or 30).

True, but it was planned in the nineties to go up by much more than that, and it could have increased faster than storage technology increased in density.

Re: Stellar Wind (code name)

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Post by lostlogin »

tomchristie wrote: post #12
voxmatt wrote: post #4

I'm glad someone posted this. My immediate thought after reading the breaking news about the massive phone surveillance was, "wait, did people not think this was happening?" I'm really not a conspiracy nut, but that Wired article and the NYTimes reporting made it pretty clear that the Gov't is pretty much collecting everything they can get their hands on. Glad to finally see some outrage though. Legitimate question:…

Journalist Glenn Greenwald obtained documents from a leak that confirm the NSA has secretly been requiring Verizon (and presumably the same for other networks) to provide the complete information (location, duration, id) of every single call, national or international, on an ongoing daily basis. There is no discrimination - this is everybody, all the time. That's kind of a big deal. It's also pretty damn brave of who…

Given this administrations record with leakers, brave is an understatement.
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