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Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#21

I'm a high school student myself (senior). I skipped massively (like 50% of the time I wasn't in class) in 10th grade, and after 10th just went to do Running Start. It's a form of dual enrollment and I'm going to community college now; I haven't set foot in HS (except to get authorization forms) in two years. College is different from high school. Try something similar. High school is a massive, pointless waste of ti…

"High school is a massive, pointless waste of time. It's like prison."

Maybe parts of it. In that it's extremely unlikely in ten years you'll talk to more than one person from your high school, but you'll still talk to many of your friends from college.

The problem with high school is you are stuck socializing with the people who happen to be geographically close to you. You don't get to choose who they are, so they could be a bunch of jerks and you can't do much about it. At college, that is WAY less likely to happen.

But you still can learn interesting stuff in high school, AND socially it's still an important step to go through all that dating/hanging out/partying stuff. You could wait until college to do that, but it would be awkward.

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#22

1. You aren't interested in school because you're not making your time at school interesting. 2. You are naive. Highschool is a mechanism to socialize you and a filter for colleges. Nothing that goes on there is a waste of time. 3. Start acting like a Gr. 10 student.

I think a very important point is in danger of being buried in glibness here:

> Highschool is a mechanism to socialize you and a filter for colleges. Nothing that goes on there is a waste of time.

Being able to effectively interact with other people is an extremely important skill in life, and will become more so in the future as the world gets more crowded and less wealthy. There's an old aphorism: it's not what you know, it's who you know. It took me twenty years to learn the hard way that this aphorism contains more than a grain of truth. It is, in fact, the whole ballgame. If you're smart but no one can stand to work with you, you will lose. Contrariwise, if you're dim but people love you you will do fine.

So if you don't want to waste the next two years, here's a project for you: figure out a way to get 100 of your peers working on something -- anything -- together. It doesn't have to make a profit (though that would be good), it doesn't have to make the world a better place (though that would be good too), but it should not be actively destructive (that makes it too easy) and every one of those 100 people has to be doing it because they want to. They all have to be enthusiastic about it. Note that what I'm suggesting is different from becoming "popular", though becoming popular might be helpful (or it might not). You have to actually organize these people into doing some kind of productive activity. Just inviting 100 people to a beer bash doesn't count.

If you achieve that you will have just had the most useful two years of your life. Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#24

I went to college when I was 16 at http://www.tams.unt.edu/ Most states have these now. Look into it.

I also went to college at 16. But be careful! I ended up dropping out of UCLA, going to community college, and eventually graduating from UCSB seven years later (then went to design school in Vancouver). The problem was that I was still wanting a sense of community, and I couldn't find it at university because of the age discrepancy. I dont regret my decision leaving high school early, but remember that this wont necessarily solve all of your problems, but it could be a good step! Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#25
High school is rough, especially for those intelligent enough to be reading hackernews. Its pretty far from a reality of the world and I would say appreciate the lack of responsibility expected of you and learn a programming language as well as a musical instrument. And even start learning a foreign language as well as SAT vocab cards during class. Also, I recommend skipping a lot. It got me through :)

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#26

I'm a high school student myself (senior). I skipped massively (like 50% of the time I wasn't in class) in 10th grade, and after 10th just went to do Running Start. It's a form of dual enrollment and I'm going to community college now; I haven't set foot in HS (except to get authorization forms) in two years. College is different from high school. Try something similar. High school is a massive, pointless waste of ti…

Having worked in a number of research labs, I would add to this that you should also try contacting professors at the nearest college. Very rarely is there something structured put in place for high school students to work at universities, but that said, many professors will work around/through/over the bureaucracy so that you can work with them. Often times all that is needed is a bit of initiative and some personal contact.

In other words, if there's one thing I've learned so far in life, it's not to underestimate the power of simple human contact. Go knock on a random professor's door, and I think you'd be surprised how many times the door opens!

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#29
Make it a game. See how high you can get your GPA, or how little work you can do and still keep a 3.7.

Also, try a sport or other extra-curricular. (tennis and track were good for skinny guys like me). Do more with your classmates than just go to class.

Re: Ask HN: I'm in 10th grade and I hate school. Any suggestions?

#30
Sounds like you are aware of the options. You can get a GED or try to get into college early. You can homeschool or maybe find a school like the Sudbury Valley model. You can keep attending school and try to push the boundaries of what you can get away with or otherwise game the system.

But you can't make your school not-school. It's always going to be boring, mostly pointless, mostly a waste of time. Accept this and deal with it.

Or you can stay frustrated and angry about it instead. This is totally normal, expected, and acceptable teenager behavior--it worked fine for me--but it won't actually change anything.

Good luck.

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