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Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by asr2bd »

carbocation wrote: post #12

Most of the comments are focused on the author's trivial mistake (when was this information surfaced: now, or at launch?). His substantive point is more valuable to bring to light. Perhaps the fact that there are top-users lists highlights the tension between what Snapchat says that people use it for (sharing brief moments with friends) vs what people actually use it for. In fact, I actually use Snapchat for sharing…

Some friends of mine made a webapp at PennApps to visualize your Snapchat social graph by scraping the public profiles:

http://snapgraph.me/

Even if Snapchat isn't making a big network diagram it's certainly possible to create one.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by jseliger »

speeder wrote: post #29

Today lots of posts on privacy... To those saying that if you have nothing to hide you should not have a problem with this, you are missing some points, and situations... For example, sometimes you do things that are controversial, but not necessarily wrong, or "sketchy", and you don't want the negative attention. For example, regarding the Verizon call list: What if people discover you have made lots of calls to KKK…

To those saying that if you have nothing to hide you should not have a problem with this, you are missing some points, and situations...

In addition, the idea that privacy is necessary to a full life and full persona has been addressed by an array of scholars and privacy experts; consider Decew's In Pursuit of Privacy: Law, Ethics, and the Rise of Technology as one good place to start.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by KathyMurphy »

If you are looking for snapchat for adults without the Best Friends feature check out www.ncryptedcloud.com

The private camera function is much better than Snapchat because I can send my private photos to ANYONE not just someone who has Snapchat.

The ability to watermark the image with the email or the phone number of my friends is WAY better than a notice that someone took a screen shot IMHO.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by glenntzke »

I'm bothered by the tone and inclusive language of this post. Of course an inspection of one's private conversations is intrusive and will make them uncomfortable, but this isn't true for all: "We get incredibly offending[sic] when someone reads our text messages, but even if they never see the messages themselves we are still embarrassed the second they see who we are talking to."

I'm not embarrassed by the people I communicate with - hell that would make my friends list on facebook a nightmare! And when you see my snapchat best friends, it's my girlfriend and 1 other guy and 1 other girl - my 2 top traveling friends. We use snapchat while on the road to share funny, temporal traveling moments that don't warrant setting up a real shot or publication. And it's a lot of fun.

I suppose if you need anonymity for your snaps you shouldn't be sharing your username with those you trust. And you shouldn't be trusted, either.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by [deleted] »

jmduke wrote: post #25
jmathai wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there are useful scenarios like yours. But that alone doesn't magically make the app have a net positive impact. I'm not claiming it is positive or negative but rather something to consider. The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides…

The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides my point and I'm on mobile :). This is exactly my point.

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Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by ionwake »

jmduke wrote: post #25
jmathai wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there are useful scenarios like yours. But that alone doesn't magically make the app have a net positive impact. I'm not claiming it is positive or negative but rather something to consider. The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides…

The comment about email isn't really logical. Crow bars help you kill people but that doesn't mean we should treat them the same way as guns. I'm sure there is a technical term for it (logical fallacy) but that's besides my point and I'm on mobile :). This is exactly my point.

I think youre arguing against someone with an agenda, they cant possibly be this stupid.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by ionwake »

ryandvm wrote: post #35

I find Snapchat's charter fascinating. I say this as the author of a competing, and much less successful, product called Privy ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appidio.pr... ). I wrote Privy with a very simple use case in mind. It was for sending messages that you never want to resurface. Privacy, of course, was paramount. After reading a few interviews with the Snapchat guys, I was amused that the…

I do not know much about privy, but as a competitor - why do you feel snapchat was more successful?

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by joshdance »

I agree that Snapchat needs to be more forthright about what kind of information they store and what actually happens to the photos. But I kind of feel like if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry. If you do have something to hide, maybe it would be worth your time to find a different app.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by LaGrange »

jmathai wrote: post #9

This has been circulating in my mind for some time now. It seems to me that Silicon Valley is so obsessed with "home run" start ups that we've lost track of caring if they make our lives better. I'm not necessarily making a moral judgement on Snapchat but I do think it is something to consider. You can see the same mentality around Chatroulette. I realize the value of something is not concrete at first; Twitter comes…

As a society, are we rallying behind an app that helps people engage in extramarital affairs as this post suggests? Without getting into morality, don't we agree that affairs impact not just the two participants but the families surrounding them?

Say, abused/neglected person looking for a way out, but not feeling safe without some sort of social support outside of marriage. Don't be too quick to judge.

Re: Snapchat, You've Made a Huge Mistake

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Post by dave5104 »

bennyg wrote: post #26
jmduke wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It implies that the company is building a database that could be used to reconstruct an enormous network diagram. It's actually fun and trivial to do this yourself with a spider: go to http://www.snapchat.com/username , mark 'best friendships' as followthroughs. A fun thing you notice pretty quickly is that the 'best friend' designation isn't one-to-one, prolific snappers will appear often in peoples' friends lists…

That's the day I stop using it. If I get a few second ad every 4 or 5 snaps then I won't continue my usage of the app. I understand that good things that require monetary value to continue operating at scale need to have a way to make money, but advertising should be a last-resort option. We haven't even seen for-pay snaps yet (more seconds, more options like random clip-art to add in, etc). Advertising kills the pro…

I'm on the opposite end there. I would never pay money for extra snap options. I'd much rather see ads if choosing between the two.
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