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Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

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Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

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post #8

This is why it's bad that virtually no net neutrality rules were implemented for the wireless market when the net neutrality law passed.

I don't think this has anything to do with net neutrality. For example, it's perfectly legal for Comcast to throttle your home cable connection.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

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I live in Los Angeles and I've just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon. An S2 to IPhone 5. My service has got so so so much better. The T-Mobile network is so bad that I never used up my 100MB/month allowance at 3G speeds in spite of the fact that I tried to use data on my phone all the time. Ridiculous in such a large metropolitan area. So don't all go rushing to T-Mobile!

Depending on where you live in LA you'll run into these problems with all carriers due to the topography.

I also found it quite annoying with AT&T even though there was a tower six blocks from my apartment.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

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Another win for T-Mobile. I have to say, for all the negative things I've heard about them in past years, the more I hear about the company the harder I think about switching from Verizon. No contracts for service, they separated phone subsidies from phone service, and reasonably priced data plans. Does anyone use T-Mobile? How is their network?

In the peninsula where many Hacker News readers probably reside, their network is pretty great. In Austin, using T-Mobile is a lot like not having a data plan and having a phone with only moderately high probability. People who call you will sometimes get some message saying that your number doesn't exist. The opt-out process for T-Mobile's DNS hijacking is not satisfactory: > Note: In order for opt-out to work prope…

I had tmobile in Austin for years and its was always superb. I only switched for an incentive I definitely regret.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

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post #2

Another win for T-Mobile. I have to say, for all the negative things I've heard about them in past years, the more I hear about the company the harder I think about switching from Verizon. No contracts for service, they separated phone subsidies from phone service, and reasonably priced data plans. Does anyone use T-Mobile? How is their network?

Using an unlocked AT&T iPhone 4 in the Chicago area. Many places have not completed the "refarming" effort of switching the 1700 MHz towers to 1900 MHz, so most of the time I am on Edge (2.5G).

When I happen to be in an iPhone 4 compatible cell, the 3G is pretty solid, often 6mbit down, 2mbit up.

Waiting for the 5S to upgrade - hoping the LTE and HSPA+ is good.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

#87
post #2

Another win for T-Mobile. I have to say, for all the negative things I've heard about them in past years, the more I hear about the company the harder I think about switching from Verizon. No contracts for service, they separated phone subsidies from phone service, and reasonably priced data plans. Does anyone use T-Mobile? How is their network?

In the peninsula where many Hacker News readers probably reside, their network is pretty great. In Austin, using T-Mobile is a lot like not having a data plan and having a phone with only moderately high probability. People who call you will sometimes get some message saying that your number doesn't exist. The opt-out process for T-Mobile's DNS hijacking is not satisfactory: > Note: In order for opt-out to work prope…

To play devil's advocate, how exactly do you propose they store such a user preference? And keep in mind cellphones don't have stable IPs.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

#88
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the browser sniffing still an issue? What sort of plan are you on? T-Mobile changed some things last month ( http://www.tmonews.com/2013/04/t-mobile-will-begin-bundling-... ). You may be able to shift to a plan that includes (limited) tethering at no real cost. The default includes only 500MB of "high speed" tethered data, but you can add higher amounts.

I had my contract renewed back in Jan and it din't include any tethering option. So I guess I am stuck for the next 1 1/2 years. However its great to see the new bundling option being offered. It really comes in handy when you are on the move or on vacation.

When I inquired the rep about how accounts that would still be under their contract plans -- what they told me was you'll still have locked to contract for full-term of the contract, however, adjusting rate plan / service (probably with some limitation -- like reducing lines) won't affect your remaining contract -- so you may want to check to see if there's any way you can make adjustments without any consequences.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

#89
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone on AT&T now but whose contract has expired, I read stuff like this with great interest. I tested my friend's iphone 5 last week here and he was getting 22mb d/l and 10mb u/l. I could swear at AT&T a whole lot but still enjoy those speeds.

are you in SF? i live in cole valley and have terrible at&t service. its been terrible ever since i moved here, though, at&t has given me discounts, credits, even a microcell (requires highspeed internet). now i get full bars in my house, though,as soon as i step outside its back to one little bar. i wonder if my microcell will work with tmobile? i'm out of contract and have been thinking about switching.

> i wonder if my microcell will work with tmobile?

It will not. Instead of a dedicated unit T-mo uses UMA to allow phones to make calls via any wifi connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Access_Network

I believe it had previously been implemented in hardware (BB Curve etc.), these days it's implemented via software for Android handsets. Not yet supported on iphones.

Re: Your iPhone and iPad Are Limited. T-Mobile is the Exception

#90
post #54

It really sucks that carriers do this, but I think it's important to realize that the issue is transparency, not that they do it. Verizon and AT&T have a problem with scaling. They should be honest and upfront about what speeds you're realistically going to attain, but I don't think they have an obligation not to throttle people. It's honestly hard to exist without it. I don't know if Verizon and AT&T could operate s…

It doesn't seem at all reasonable to throttle a particular device and not other comparable devices. It seems more reasonable to have the tower/router adjust the bandwidth made available to each device in real-time to ensure there's enough bandwidth for all users in the face of capacity issues. I think it's fine to advertise peak speeds if those are regularly attainable even if sometimes they are not. It's not OK to a…

The blame here lies squarely with Apple for allowing the carriers to pull this sort of bullshit with their customers. They're the ones who implemented this whole carrier profile mess on their platform.

They could take a lesson from Tron.

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