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Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by vec » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 8:52 PM UTC

btipling wrote: post #31

Instead of calling it a donation, just call it the 'pro' version and add like a supporter badge on the header or let them do something silly like change the color of their header like on HN. Will probably get more funds that way and won't get cynical people to roll their eyes at questionable use of the word 'donation' whether it is or not.

Yeah, but we're all geeks here. It can't be that hard to splice together some custom CSS to make hacker news look like whatever you want. Let me just click view source and OH GOD PG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WHY ARE YOU USING NESTED TABLES IT'S 2013!!?!?!!111questionmark!

Sorry, blacked out for a minute there.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by alex_doom » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 8:56 PM UTC

ryanisinallofus wrote: post #3

Looks beautiful, interesting pay model. Seems like enough people still use RSS readers... Just 2 feature requests: 1.) Let us change the one color :) That red is pretty, but distracts from the content. Dustin Curtis got this right on his minimalist design in that the one-color isn't used in the actual content. 2.) Responsive design: Iv'e been removing apps from my phone for weeks and I couldn't be happier. Far less a…

Well I think the color works really well. Sparse whitespace punctuated with red. It's clearly well though out. And I like it.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by ramayac » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 8:57 PM UTC

jamiebikies wrote: post #51

btipling wrote: post #31

Instead of calling it a donation, just call it the 'pro' version and add like a supporter badge on the header or let them do something silly like change the color of their header like on HN. Will probably get more funds that way and won't get cynical people to roll their eyes at questionable use of the word 'donation' whether it is or not.

I was calling it a donation, because I do offer the service for free. I wanted to offer the service to people that might not be able to afford it, and not have them punished by having fewer features.

"I wanted to offer the service to people that might not be able to afford it, and not have them punished by having fewer features."

That's neat, why don't consider some kind of sponsorship program? A user that can pay, can sponsor one or two more users who can't, that would be nice :)

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by alex_doom » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 8:58 PM UTC

jamiebikies wrote: post #11

dabeeeenster wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree - the red is way too much.

We can tone down the red if enough people think it's jarring, I love this kind of feedback!

I think it's working really well, but take all options here with a grain of salt.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by krapp » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 8:58 PM UTC

vec wrote: post #101

btipling wrote: post #31

Instead of calling it a donation, just call it the 'pro' version and add like a supporter badge on the header or let them do something silly like change the color of their header like on HN. Will probably get more funds that way and won't get cynical people to roll their eyes at questionable use of the word 'donation' whether it is or not.

Yeah, but we're all geeks here. It can't be that hard to splice together some custom CSS to make hacker news look like whatever you want. Let me just click view source and OH GOD PG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WHY ARE YOU USING NESTED TABLES IT'S 2013!!?!?!!111questionmark! Sorry, blacked out for a minute there.

You'd think a site called Hacker News would be more hackable...

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by luv2code » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 9:05 PM UTC

Jamie, I am getting about 10 errors a second in my console:

  Uncaught TypeError: Object sufio._xdWatchInFlight(); has no method 'apply' reader-29b4dd587f1ca6b5f0d639aac64ce9bf.js:1 e.(anonymous function) reader-29b4dd587f1ca6b5f0d639aac64ce9bf.js:1

Pretty print the error location from chrome:

  e.setInterval = function() {
        var e = t.call(arguments, 0), n = e[0];
        return e[0] = function() {
            try {
                n.apply(this, arguments)
  Uncaught TypeError: Object sufio._xdWatchInFlight(); has no method 'apply' (repeated 1589 times)
            } catch (e) {
                throw TraceKit.report(e), e
            }
        }, r.apply(this, e)
    }

The proxy at my work doesn't allow web sockets, and I think this might be related.

Also, I noticed that there are at least 3 different third party services being called (superfish, pusherapp and intercom). All of these are ancillary to the main functionality, right?

I haven't even got my feeds imported yet, and the app is already pulling down 2 MB. superfish in particular is super heavy. I think I would prefer a lighter payload.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by btipling » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 9:13 PM UTC

jamiebikies wrote: post #51

btipling wrote: post #31

Instead of calling it a donation, just call it the 'pro' version and add like a supporter badge on the header or let them do something silly like change the color of their header like on HN. Will probably get more funds that way and won't get cynical people to roll their eyes at questionable use of the word 'donation' whether it is or not.

I was calling it a donation, because I do offer the service for free. I wanted to offer the service to people that might not be able to afford it, and not have them punished by having fewer features.

It's difficult to scale an RSS reader as you could quickly start having to crawl orders of magnitude number of feeds more than you are now as you get more users, if power users like your thing. I know because I worked at Bloglines. You're either going to need money or you will shut it down eventually.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

#108

Post by jff » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 9:24 PM UTC

Why does everything have to be described as "beautiful"? Yes, it looks nice. It's not fucking Beethoven, it's a website that appears to do a damn fine job of managing RSS feeds. Yet every damn day we see another HN front-page article about such-and-such a "beautiful" web-app.

Edit: also, in this instance, a good chunk of the beautiful design seems to have been lifted from Google's style, from the icon style to the way they put a little red bar next to the current selection

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by dylangs1030 » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 9:26 PM UTC

jff wrote: post #108

Why does everything have to be described as "beautiful"? Yes, it looks nice. It's not fucking Beethoven, it's a website that appears to do a damn fine job of managing RSS feeds. Yet every damn day we see another HN front-page article about such-and-such a "beautiful" web-app. Edit: also, in this instance, a good chunk of the beautiful design seems to have been lifted from Google's style, from the icon style to the wa…

It's a good way to say, "Hey, not only did I develop this cool thing, I designed this cool thing."

Also, sometimes design is a focal point. All things being equal, I will choose the prettier option. I might even be persuaded to pay money for a prettier option if it functions just as well as the ugly open source option.

Re: Show HN: Yoleo – A Beautiful RSS Reader

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Post by webwanderings » Wed, Jun 05, 2013, 9:29 PM UTC

When it comes to RSS reading, its all in the UI: how it is setup and how well one adjust to such an interface. As far as I am concerned, I cropped-up my own [1] and I am happy with the solution so far.

[1] http://web-wanderings.blogspot.com/2013/05/a-no-coding-requi...