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Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by JamisonM »

maeon3 wrote: post #47
JamisonM wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ignored all the criticism I offered of your original post. Why would you do this?

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sounds of Muslims threatening their government (Norway) with 9/11 events to get their own country-within-a-country. You mentioned I wasn't responding to your argument, I was, you said Muslims always Integrate, and I responded with an example right now of Muslims threatening countries with 9/11 events to get an Islamic State within Norway. This game you are playing. Two can play it.…

Oh, and I like the tactic of posting and then editing a little while later to make your post look better. Seen you do that twice now.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by JamisonM »

maeon3 wrote: post #60
JamisonM wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not say that all Muslims always integrate nor did I mean to imply it. You post original post makes broadly general statements about all the Muslims in the world, it says in fact that they "won't integrate". It seems to me that the burden of proof is on you with all these generalities. Which terrorists was I defending? If I offer a defence of Catholics against accusations of violence does that make me an IRA sup…

I make broad sweeping generalizations about Muslim Extremists. Yes. By definition they are the ones that refuse to integrate and have on average 8 children per slave female and make it illegal to educate women. Oh you're going for the "Islamic Takeovers of the world are OK because the Catholics did it too"? What the catholics did were wrong, and what the Extremist Muslims are doing is wrong too. Stop trying to apolog…

Extremist Muslims are bad. Terrorists are bad. I do not support terrorism, Islamic or otherwise.

What you think you are writing and what you are actually writing appear to be two different things. You should work on that.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

#64

Post by maeon3 »

JamisonM wrote: post #61
maeon3 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sounds of Muslims threatening their government (Norway) with 9/11 events to get their own country-within-a-country. You mentioned I wasn't responding to your argument, I was, you said Muslims always Integrate, and I responded with an example right now of Muslims threatening countries with 9/11 events to get an Islamic State within Norway. This game you are playing. Two can play it.…

Oh, and I like the tactic of posting and then editing a little while later to make your post look better. Seen you do that twice now.

I'm doing it because you were doing it. You've also removed some of your Extremist Muslim supporting statements. Don't want the FBI seeing that kind of stuff. It'll put you on the "no fly" list.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

#65

Post by JamisonM »

maeon3 wrote: post #64
JamisonM wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, and I like the tactic of posting and then editing a little while later to make your post look better. Seen you do that twice now.

I'm doing it because you were doing it. You've also removed some of your Extremist Muslim supporting statements. Don't want the FBI seeing that kind of stuff. It'll put you on the "no fly" list.

No, I have not. That is completely false.

I think I made one edit to correct a typo. You removed the first line of your original posting that indicated that you thought that the protests were anti-secular and you added content that "addressed" one of my points to a post that originally only made reference to Norway.

Now I am editing this just to add that I see you are editing other comments as well, not just to correct typos but significantly altering their content. It seems cheap and petty.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

#66

Post by white_devil »

JamisonM wrote: post #53
maeon3 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sounds of Muslims threatening their government (Norway) with 9/11 events to get their own country-within-a-country. You mentioned I wasn't responding to your argument, I was, you said Muslims always Integrate, and I responded with an example right now of Muslims threatening countries with 9/11 events to get an Islamic State within Norway. This game you are playing. Two can play it.…

I did not say that all Muslims always integrate nor did I mean to imply it. You post original post makes broadly general statements about all the Muslims in the world, it says in fact that they "won't integrate". It seems to me that the burden of proof is on you with all these generalities. Which terrorists was I defending? If I offer a defence of Catholics against accusations of violence does that make me an IRA sup…

> it says in fact that they "won't integrate". It seems to me that the burden of proof is on you with all these generalities

Look no further than the recent events in Stockholm. This guy might be a bit extreme, but he does have a point.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

#67

Post by kweks »

Jun8 wrote: post #24

Just to give you a glimpse of better things than saddening photos of police brutality, here is what people did at the Gezi Park in the past 2-3 days: * An impromptu library was built, here are some photos: http://gezikutuphanesi.blogspot.com/ (scroll down) with books donated by people and many publishers. * Women doing yoga at Gezi Park: http://imgur.com/3kubMll?tags : http://imgur.com/3kubMll?tags (FYI, it is not co…

I flew down to Istanbul this weekend to support my friends. Joined in the protests on the front lines - have some photos up: http://travel.ninjito.com/dump/2013-06-01-Istanbul-Protests/...

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by sheri »

kweks wrote: post #67
Jun8 wrote: post #24

Just to give you a glimpse of better things than saddening photos of police brutality, here is what people did at the Gezi Park in the past 2-3 days: * An impromptu library was built, here are some photos: http://gezikutuphanesi.blogspot.com/ (scroll down) with books donated by people and many publishers. * Women doing yoga at Gezi Park: http://imgur.com/3kubMll?tags : http://imgur.com/3kubMll?tags (FYI, it is not co…

I flew down to Istanbul this weekend to support my friends. Joined in the protests on the front lines - have some photos up: http://travel.ninjito.com/dump/2013-06-01-Istanbul-Protests/...

Beautiful pictures! Thanks for sharing.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

#69

Post by adaml_623 »

ayi wrote: post #50
maeon3 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, well then we'll take it on faith then. Why did you join the protest?

Because current government tries to change how we live. I think government's job is just trying to boost the economy, trying to not get into any war, paying the debts to IMF and etc. But current ruling party forces our life styles into a shape which they draw. Just one example: - Taksim Square is a famous tourist attraction centers of Istanbul. - Government first said to bars (pubs): "you can't put stalls on front of…

Is there an article you have seen in the western media that elaborates on what you've said here. I'm not finding my usual sources to be at all helpful explaining what is happening

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by druiid »

ayi wrote: post #50
maeon3 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, well then we'll take it on faith then. Why did you join the protest?

Because current government tries to change how we live. I think government's job is just trying to boost the economy, trying to not get into any war, paying the debts to IMF and etc. But current ruling party forces our life styles into a shape which they draw. Just one example: - Taksim Square is a famous tourist attraction centers of Istanbul. - Government first said to bars (pubs): "you can't put stalls on front of…

Well, since you're answering questions... Would you say in general that the government is becoming less 'secular'? Have there been other large changes pushed by the government besides the big issues I have heard about (including the alcohol issue)? Also, have there been laws put in place against atheism or LGBT rights issues?

One of the big issues right now is that these protests are not really getting coverage in the media here in the US. It's hard to get the full story.

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