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Check out this beauty: "Like slavery in the 18th century, prisons are a necessary evil.." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5798034

Two can play at the genetic fallacy game Achmed... How about this abomination of a twitter feed? http://twitter.com/jmattheij

Sorry, I do not understand this. Who is Achmed? What is the "genetic fallacy game"?

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness. At 2% and 3% t…

> They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.

Can non-muslims not prepare halal food?

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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You ignored all the criticism I offered of your original post. Why would you do this?

I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sounds of Muslims threatening their government (Norway) with 9/11 events to get their own country-within-a-country. You mentioned I wasn't responding to your argument, I was, you said Muslims always Integrate, and I responded with an example right now of Muslims threatening countries with 9/11 events to get an Islamic State within Norway. This game you are playing. Two can play it.…

I did not say that all Muslims always integrate nor did I mean to imply it. You post original post makes broadly general statements about all the Muslims in the world, it says in fact that they "won't integrate". It seems to me that the burden of proof is on you with all these generalities.

Which terrorists was I defending? If I offer a defence of Catholics against accusations of violence does that make me an IRA supporter or defender?

I want to hear more about the cabal of Muslims running South Africa, it sounds fascinating!

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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post #52
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The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness. At 2% and 3% t…

> They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. Can non-muslims not prepare halal food?

Halaal food must be prepared by Muslims to be truly Halaal. Although it isn't an unbreakable rule (because of discrimination and racism is illegal) it's an unwritten rule. It's Jihad. The systemic takeover of a nation.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Two can play at the genetic fallacy game Achmed... How about this abomination of a twitter feed? http://twitter.com/jmattheij

Sorry, I do not understand this. Who is Achmed? What is the "genetic fallacy game"?

You said: "Seriously, the best thing you can do right now is delete your HN account and not come back."

Instead of addressing the substance of my argument, and the book I quoted, you instead launched a personal attack against me. That is a genetic fallacy called "Attacking the person".

The person sticking up for the Muslim Extremists is you. And it really aggravates you when I prove that to be the case. The game we are playing is Islamic Jihad. What did you think of the movie: "The innocence of Muslims"? Were you part of those riots too?

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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I don't think they were trying to hide it.

Turk media almost didn't report the news. How would you call that?

I would call that my point. The media isn't reporting the news not because the government was hiding the facts, but because the government controls the media.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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You said: "I mean look at what has become of the Germans and Irish in America!" I read your sarcasm. But the logic is flawed, just because some groups are peaceful does not mean all groups are peaceful. For example, Muslims are rioting RIGHT NOW and threatening Norway with more 9/11 events if Oslo is not made into a separate Islamic State. Why would Muslims do this?

Apologies for not observing HN protocol, but you're a complete idiot. The only real terrorist attack ever in Norway came from a lone-wolf white guy who you seem to have ideologically a whole lot in common with.

Your assessment that I'm an idiot hurts my feelings especially when I'm arguing in facts and you are in personal attacks, misdirections, and fallacies.

At least I'm not the one organizing mass threats to Norway's government to create an Islamic State inside norway or face more 9/11 events at the hands of Allah.

I share nothing with the terrorists. I crave only peace. Unlike you, sticking up for the Jihad and Terrorism, minimizing the Extremist threats and painting a picture of Terrorists as misunderstood and how the countries need to bend to their will to make them happy.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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From a Greek neighbour, good luck!

Very nice, StavrosK. As someone who has spent a lot of time in Turkey, I've been impressed at the generosity and goodwill from the Greek people toward the Turks in times of great need recently, like during the last two earthquakes. And vice versa, from the Turks to the Greeks. It's actions like this, and messages like StavrosK, that give me hope about the future of these two neighbors.

Yeah, as far as that old rivalry goes, I think our grandparents were around the last ones to really feel it (what with the wars going on). Like you said, during recent earthquakes, the two countries were among the first to send each other aid.

On a personal level, I think that someone's place of birth is a poor predictor of how much I'll like them.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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I've got to say, compared to some photos I've seen on my Facebook feed, these are nothing, many people lost an eye or had concussions when the police aimed the gas canisters directly to their heads at close range (I really don't want to share these, they're gruesome). The now-famous "woman in red being tear gassed" ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/03... ) photo, taken by a Turkish Reuters p…

> But wait, maybe this was manipulation on the photographer's part (know to happen) and the policeman did it by accident?

As always you can not now if this exact photo, in its context, had a reasonable explanation. The thing is that the OP shows tens of photos of people highly injured and it cannot be "just coincidence" or bad faith from the photographer.

This photos remembered me the demonstrations here in Spain. Police brutality looks exactly the same. What a shame.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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post #47

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I'm sorry I can't hear you over the sounds of Muslims threatening their government (Norway) with 9/11 events to get their own country-within-a-country. You mentioned I wasn't responding to your argument, I was, you said Muslims always Integrate, and I responded with an example right now of Muslims threatening countries with 9/11 events to get an Islamic State within Norway. This game you are playing. Two can play it.…

I did not say that all Muslims always integrate nor did I mean to imply it. You post original post makes broadly general statements about all the Muslims in the world, it says in fact that they "won't integrate". It seems to me that the burden of proof is on you with all these generalities. Which terrorists was I defending? If I offer a defence of Catholics against accusations of violence does that make me an IRA sup…

I make broad sweeping generalizations about Muslim Extremists. Yes. By definition they are the ones that refuse to integrate and have on average 8 children per slave female and make it illegal to educate women.

Oh you're going for the "Islamic Takeovers of the world are OK because the Catholics did it too"? What the catholics did were wrong, and what the Extremist Muslims are doing is wrong too. Stop trying to apologize for the Extremist Muslims.

Blowing up children at Marathons to illustrate your hate of western values in the name of Allah is a BAD thing. Even if evil things were committed in the past, it was not OK then, and it's not OK now either. Can you at least acknowledge this much? Or should I expect another misdirection and fallacy?

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