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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by lucb1e »

gluxon wrote: post #77
DHowett wrote: post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

The window titlebar doesn't make sense in every application. In this case, the title is already displayed on the tab. Showing it in two areas that are very close to each other is just redundant. On Windows Vista, 7, and 8, explorer does not have a titlebar since the location breadcrumb trail makes more sense. On OS X, iTunes and the App Store also do not have titlebars, favoring other ways to show information that ma…

Tabs are a bit too small to display much useful info though. A page yes, but which song is playing - already too wide. It would be a major improvement if tabs became about twice as wide by default, only shrinking on demand (like they already do).

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by gurkendoktor »

thomasjoulin wrote: post #31

Yet after Lion, Mountain Lion, and in a few month the new Mac OS, they still haven't implemented the native scrollbar and bounce scrolling... Mozilla is doing a lot of stuff, but I don't see any focus.

Firefox still doesn't support the built-in dictionary introduced in OS X _10.5_. :(

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by throwaway2048 »

Svip wrote: post #80
DHowett wrote: post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

Ah, but unlike Chrome, in Firefox, you can configure your client to look exactly like it did before. I know this is extra work for you (and me), but I guess it might work better for the vast majority of users.

The new ui update has the specific goal of reducing configurability, so new users dont get "confused".

Such changes include the inability to edit any of the UI except a row of buttons on the top left, shockingly just like chrome!. I'm sure these changes will help focus their design vision, or something.

So in short, no, you wont be able to configure your client to look exactly like it did before.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by huhtenberg »

loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

And the point of having curved tabs is... ?

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by lucb1e »

BoppreH wrote: post #19

Whenever I download a new browser, the first thing I do is remove as much UI as possible. This saves space, removes clutter and generally makes it more robust. My Firefox currently looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/93yRvie.png?1 A browser is the software I use most often, every UI change has great impact. Can't wait to see what they are bringing.

Hmm, makes me think there should be a way to keep the taskbar when you press F11. Sounds like that'd be an easy solution for what you're doing.

(Offtopic: Oh wait nobody wants a taskbar anyway, ain't it so Windows 8? :P)

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by copypasteweb »

baby wrote: post #64
dantiberian wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox UI is as busy as you make it For almost all Firefox users, the UI is as busy as Mozilla makes it.

1. I don't believe Firefox UI is busy 2. We always had those kind of "busy" UI since IE, Netscape, Opera and Firefox. 3. Chrome comes around, makes a very simplistic UI and now many people assume that it's the only way. IMO Chrome is just too simplistic, It's beautiful yes but is it efficient? For example, the first thing I do when I install Firefox on a machine is to display the menu bar. And I think it's a shame th…

>it's a shame there is no more status bar as well

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by SkyMarshal »

imalolz wrote: post #15
loupeabody wrote: post #8

Here are some very detailed mockups(?) on major platforms whose links are kind of tucked into the parent link: Linux: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows 7: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... Windows XP: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... OSX: http://people.mozilla.com/~shorlander/files/australis-design... I personally think…

I love firefox and use it daily on all platforms. What bothers me a bit (just a bit) about the design is that only on linux the menu bar row sticks out [1], while on Windows or Mac they were able to collapse it or hide it quite well. I suppose this is due to the GUI implementation constraints on the platform, but it is still very noticable when I switch from my mac to ubuntu. [1]: http://i.imgur.com/qDUuOXH.png

Looks fine to me.

http://i.imgur.com/82cxpwA.png

http://i.imgur.com/PPDqyZw.png

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by lloeki »

Svip wrote: post #80
DHowett wrote: post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

Ah, but unlike Chrome, in Firefox, you can configure your client to look exactly like it did before. I know this is extra work for you (and me), but I guess it might work better for the vast majority of users.

Like disabling Tabs on Top?

Just as in Sublime Text (and even with a proper titlebar), I really dislike those Chrome-y tabs. They take too much real estate for my taste.

Lion scrollbars finally landed on Aurora and I was hoping to move back to Firefox again when it would land in Beta. The move towards consistency with the platform was very welcome around Fx4. Now, striving for uniformity, they make it feel foreign again.

Here's the agenda: Firefox as a brand has to grow and make a show of itself. Indeed the Chromification goes much deeper than simply tab looks: as the OS is relegated to a platform/hypervisor, the browser becomes an OS in itself, so that Firefox OS makes sense for people. They're moving to make phones, which will soon call for services (unless they plan to rely solely on third parties such as WhatsApp). Mozilla's product may increasingly end up looking like yet another vertically integrated software platform.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Post by SkyMarshal »

mlex wrote: post #70

I'm actually kind of sad they're moving away from "square" tabs, as that was one of the design choices they've made that I always really liked. I'm hoping they'll provide an option in the new release, or at least that there will be an add-on that allows me to revert back. I'd love to be able to have my tabs in the title-bar with the current style. Current setup that I'm happy with: http://i.imgur.com/lf99vO3.png

Same, I prefer either square tabs or trapezoidal ones with the just slightest of roundrect corners, like Chrome/ium.

FF's heavily rounded ones seem to waste too much space in the in-between areas.

Minor nitpick though, won't affect my use of it.

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