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Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #59

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This new layout actually breaks the tree tabs plugin. It relies on tabs-on-the-bottom (which are then pushed to the left), and the new layout drops support for it. Of course, the authors could figure out a new way to do it, but for now it breaks the add-on.

God damn, this was one of the huge reason I was still sticking with Firefox...

It's still a few months out; I assume someone will find a workaround by then (if they haven't already).

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #58

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> How's that tab interface working out? I've been using it for years, I can't see myself go back to tabs on top. That's why I can't switch to chrome. Tabs on the left (or right) is how it is supposed to be ! Websites nowadays have a lot of horizontal space because of our new big wide screens. We don't have 4/3 anymore and all the websites were conceived for that kind of resolution (800 600 or 1024 768). Also it's mor…

Agreed, I would never consider using another browser unless they had vertical tabs. My Firefox typically crashes once per day but treestyle tabs make it worth it.

You can make your tabs vertical in Opera without even having to install an extension, though they don't indent like they do in TreeStyleTabs.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistent, but I imagine the point is to give a slight depth -- better highlight the foreground tab.

The inconsistency is based around a scenario like this. Open 4 tabs. click tab 1 and then tab 3. What order do you display the tabs in? Does tab 1 overlay tab 2? If closing tabs don't to the last open tab this now means that the visual stack is not accurate to how the program operates. I understand the depth but there are better ways to show it that don't take up as much space nor have to deal with issues like visual…

You are assuming tabs are a stack. They aren't.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #16

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> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example…

What are you using for those side tabs?

Or the Vertical Tabs add-on:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs...

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

The page title hasn't been shown on the window chrome for some time on Windows. I don't remember when it changed, but Firefox's UI hasn't changed for a little while.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

The window titlebar doesn't make sense in every application. In this case, the title is already displayed on the tab. Showing it in two areas that are very close to each other is just redundant.

On Windows Vista, 7, and 8, explorer does not have a titlebar since the location breadcrumb trail makes more sense. On OS X, iTunes and the App Store also do not have titlebars, favoring other ways to show information that makes more sense in the context of the app.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

Is a title bar really necessary, though? The vast majority of the time, the exact same sentence is repeated again in the page as a h1. More prominently. With better styling. When I have the browser open, the favicon and the few characters on the tab are usually enough to figure out what the page is, and when it's minimized, the text shows up in the taskbar and alt+tab... I'm curious, what's missing?

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

The page title hasn't been shown on the window chrome for some time on Windows. I don't remember when it changed, but Firefox's UI hasn't changed for a little while.

Previously, the titlebar would be shown if you enabled the menubar.

Re: Firefox 25 will get a major UI overhaul

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post #66

And Firefox continues the inexorable march towards Chromeness by removing the actual title of the page from the window chrome. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Firefox. This just strikes me as wrong; the rest of the new UI is fine.

Ah, but unlike Chrome, in Firefox, you can configure your client to look exactly like it did before. I know this is extra work for you (and me), but I guess it might work better for the vast majority of users.
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