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Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by vacri »

codereflection wrote: post #41
imperialWicket wrote: post #37

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I think one of the big issues with JIRA is that it's configurable enough to be a project management tool. It's a really great issue tracker (IMO), and I think when you aim to use it as more than that (involve proper releases, milestones, scheduling/time-tracking, etc.), all of a sudden you get into the areas where the configuration and education issues that you mentioned become apparent. Project management software i…

Re: JIRA. At work we've been using Jira for several years. While it's very flexible, it does come with a certain level of complexity that makes doing things like simple Kanban heavier than it should/needs to be. I have a billion opinions about JIRA, and a love/hate relationship with it. Github issues - bare bone basics, but I hear they're working on improving it. You cannot currently run something like a Kanban board…

My own experience with Jira is that it's easy to misconfigure when you start, then later on there's too much inertia in the userbase to fix it. I liked it, but you have to know it a little before you use it.

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by hhandoko »

vyrotek wrote: post #59
wdewind wrote: post #42

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We use JIRA at Etsy (although we use Github for code reviews, not crucible). It is certainly frustrating, but I tend to think it's a "the worst except the rest" situation. Do you have something you like significantly better? I've experimented with stuff like trello, basecamp etc. and still haven't found them significantly better.

I'm currently using Trello quite a bit and also Asana for some newer projects. I really like the "physical card" feel of Trello. I'm a post-it note kind of guy. Asana seems pretty nice so far but is more grid-based. It's very clean and slick though.

We use JIRA with GreenHopper to support Agile at work. The users mostly just go to the Card / backlog views and I can say it's working pretty well. Not as smooth as Trello, but still good :)

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by chrismorgan »

georgemcbay wrote: post #40
vyrotek wrote: post #32

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JIRA is pretty sweet to keep things in order. Really? I use and love BitBucket, but the last 2 places I worked at used JIRA and it was the worst project management tool I've ever used. I'm sure someone will say they didn't configure it right or educate the devs or something. Seriously though, it was pushed down from upper management in both cases and it was a terrible experience. Then they thought Greenhopper would f…

You must have never used Rally? Because while I'm not a huge fan of JIRA (I've only used it in the past year so I don't know what it was like 4 years ago), I've unfortunately seen much worse.

Absolutely. I've had to use Rally for two years (haven't used it in the last five months, though). When I started using it, they didn't use URLs; it was a stateful app. Even now (well, five months ago) that's still often true...

Also until recently, from Melbourne it took just under thirty seconds to load a page, any page, from scratch. Sending 2MB (for a while it was 4MB) of uncached JavaScript on every page load helped with that. Quite why one would use Ext 3, Ext 4, YUI and a couple of other libraries all on the same page, I don't know. Now, I think it's down to only about half a megabyte, and it's mostly cached.

And I can just keep going on and on about it...

JIRA is something where it can be configured well or poorly. Configured poorly, it's nasty. Configured well, it's enormously nicer than Rally can ever possibly be.

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by jlgreco »

pwang wrote: post #70
jlgreco wrote: post #46

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I feel like I am taking crazy pills whenever somebody says that mercurial is simpler than git. Mercurial's per-file revlog and structured .hg/store/data is way weirder / more complex than git's SHA-addressed DAG with minimal/orthogonal object types. The only real blemish on git is that lightweight tags should not exist.

As someone once commented, git is a great library for building a VCS system. Great design. The tooling around it? Not so much. http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/

The default tooling is either your cup of tea, or it isn't. There is great 3rd party tooling available if your tastes are different though, such as where Github and I assume Bitbucket are moving. I think those are probably the future of git (and/or mercurial) use for non-technical users.

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by mkehrt »

mathrawka wrote: post #60
kleiba wrote: post #47

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Honest question: why do you need a central repository (SVN style) if it's a private repo? I tend to develop my own projects mostly on two different machines, and the core code management and synchronization doesn't need anything but git itself. Is it so you can use bug trackers etc?

Offsite data backup of the entire repository for free.

This is the truth.

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by coolsunglasses »

wdewind wrote: post #42
vyrotek wrote: post #32

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JIRA is pretty sweet to keep things in order. Really? I use and love BitBucket, but the last 2 places I worked at used JIRA and it was the worst project management tool I've ever used. I'm sure someone will say they didn't configure it right or educate the devs or something. Seriously though, it was pushed down from upper management in both cases and it was a terrible experience. Then they thought Greenhopper would f…

We use JIRA at Etsy (although we use Github for code reviews, not crucible). It is certainly frustrating, but I tend to think it's a "the worst except the rest" situation. Do you have something you like significantly better? I've experimented with stuff like trello, basecamp etc. and still haven't found them significantly better.

Phabricator is a nice fully integrated alterative.

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by amalag »

mathrawka wrote: post #60
kleiba wrote: post #47

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Honest question: why do you need a central repository (SVN style) if it's a private repo? I tend to develop my own projects mostly on two different machines, and the core code management and synchronization doesn't need anything but git itself. Is it so you can use bug trackers etc?

Offsite data backup of the entire repository for free.

I use bitbucket for this and also have it on s3 via Jgit

Re: Bitbucket passes one million users

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Post by tshepang »

imperialWicket wrote: post #10

Github has the social aspects nailed down, but for small teams or personal projects, I don't hesitate to use bitbucket. Particularly now that you can use HipChat for free on small teams, hosting with bitbucket and managing your project exclusively through Atlassian is fantastic. I like issue management in bitbucket much more than github, as well (personal opinion, no great foundation here).

What does "social aspects" mean? Number of users and/or something else?
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