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Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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This might be a black sheep type of question in a thread like this but here goes. Microsoft pursued a strategy that enabled people to make web apps in HTML5/Javascript as first class apps in Windows 8. Why is it not being adopted/praised as much as Firefox OS is? Is it because it's Microsoft? Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be? A lot of people denounce Windo…

I think it is a very fair question. The first reason I want Mozilla to win here is that they don't want my data. They are pushing for stronger privacy in firefox, and although I love Chrome I don't think Google can ever support real browser privacy. I am a fan of JS on windows 8 and winphone 8. However, I own a win7 phone and got burned by their non-backwards compatible upgrade to 8. So I have no love for MS, althoug…

>I don't want to install eclipse to write for Android

Well you don't need eclipse to write for Android

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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This might be a black sheep type of question in a thread like this but here goes. Microsoft pursued a strategy that enabled people to make web apps in HTML5/Javascript as first class apps in Windows 8. Why is it not being adopted/praised as much as Firefox OS is? Is it because it's Microsoft? Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be? A lot of people denounce Windo…

> Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be? Yes, basically. At least for me. It comes down to trust. I trust Mozilla that they want to do good for the community. I trust Microsoft first and foremost wants to make money for their shareholders and only after that for the community. This is fine, they're a for-profit company. It's just that doing good for your shareh…

They are complete Bds. I am still very unhappy about what they did with the win7 phone. I feel like such a sucker. I was so enthusiastic about the interface, I showed to all my workmates and tried to convince them it was better than their phones (with little success). And then they went and left me with a ghost town of a phone. I felt quite foolish after that.

I took it all a bit personally :)

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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I think it is a very fair question. The first reason I want Mozilla to win here is that they don't want my data. They are pushing for stronger privacy in firefox, and although I love Chrome I don't think Google can ever support real browser privacy. I am a fan of JS on windows 8 and winphone 8. However, I own a win7 phone and got burned by their non-backwards compatible upgrade to 8. So I have no love for MS, althoug…

>I don't want to install eclipse to write for Android Well you don't need eclipse to write for Android

That is true, but what is the command line tooling like for java? I build java all day inside god-awful IDEs. The last time I tried compiling Java on the command line it was really a lot of work.

I suppose there is some maven support for building Android. An even better reason to hope for the best for FFOS.

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.

This might be a black sheep type of question in a thread like this but here goes. Microsoft pursued a strategy that enabled people to make web apps in HTML5/Javascript as first class apps in Windows 8. Why is it not being adopted/praised as much as Firefox OS is? Is it because it's Microsoft? Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be? A lot of people denounce Windo…

Thus far most of the windows 8 hardware either sucks, or it costs too much. I really wanted a windows tablet until Samsung's ativ turned out to be defective,windows rt turned out to be useless, and the surface was released with a keyboard that requires a table to use.

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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Shouldn't there be outrage about Foxconn and its production practices? Seems not long ago it was a hellhole representing everything wrong about the modern tech industry - now it's perfectly fine? If so, good job by Tim Cook to pressure them into greatness in worker treatment. Right?

Are you going to also complain about Canonical partnering with the Chinese government in creating a Ubuntu derivative[1][2]? [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UbuntuKylin Business relationships make for strange bedfellows, and I'm sure Mozilla has some serious preconceptions about working with Foxconn, however it should be comforting that we're moving beyond the world of Microso…

Yes.

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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Why can't they be both? I can't celebrate this, even though I like Firefox and encourage their push for open web. But any company that has to install countermeasures to prevent worker suicides on premise isn't exactly aces in my book...

You can, no, you should; but is not a "you must".

Yes it is a must, or they are just a bunch or hypocrites ,like the "dont be evil" folks...

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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Why Foxconn? So many human rights violations... Don't get me wrong, I really really want this to work out... but someone like Mozilla shouldn't be in bed with the likes of Foxconn.

people care about "open web" but strangely dont care about human right violations. Strange priorities indeed.

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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I think it is a very fair question. The first reason I want Mozilla to win here is that they don't want my data. They are pushing for stronger privacy in firefox, and although I love Chrome I don't think Google can ever support real browser privacy. I am a fan of JS on windows 8 and winphone 8. However, I own a win7 phone and got burned by their non-backwards compatible upgrade to 8. So I have no love for MS, althoug…

>I don't want to install eclipse to write for Android Well you don't need eclipse to write for Android

They also just switched over to IntelliJ, didn't they?

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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>I don't want to install eclipse to write for Android Well you don't need eclipse to write for Android

That is true, but what is the command line tooling like for java? I build java all day inside god-awful IDEs. The last time I tried compiling Java on the command line it was really a lot of work. I suppose there is some maven support for building Android. An even better reason to hope for the best for FFOS.

Android also has decent command line tool support and a build system based on Ant. I'm not a huge fan of ant, but the default setup works all right and is extensible. I've mostly managed to stay inside Emacs for Android development.

Re: Foxconn Joins the Firefox OS Eco-System

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>I don't want to install eclipse to write for Android Well you don't need eclipse to write for Android

That is true, but what is the command line tooling like for java? I build java all day inside god-awful IDEs. The last time I tried compiling Java on the command line it was really a lot of work. I suppose there is some maven support for building Android. An even better reason to hope for the best for FFOS.

there is an official gradle support (still a work in progress): http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/user-gui... .
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